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mmcisme1
Active Contributor
First of all, I'm one of those non-believers.   I know, I know, Community Champion.  I still have have to be true to me!  And on Low Code/No Code, I just don't believe.

Here are some of my reasons:

  1.  VC - An older no-code solution

  2. Build - Another one that few have heard of

  3. Personas - Now I'm getting closer to the current time line.  I think some company's do use this.

  4. In my mind, I can see eternal loops happening.

  5. People - Yes, they use Excel so maybe...

  6. Simple Queries - Really I think IT just uses this.  Now this could be considered no-code as it can be written by our Functional people.  However, things are changing fast.  You'll have a hard time convincing them to use it.

  7. Support calls and ease of helping them out.

  8. I can't imagine what the workflows will look like, and how up-to-date they will be.

  9. Seems like a system person's nightmare.


And I'm sure I could think of a lot more.

But why haven't I blogged about this before?  Simple, all of this is based on old products that didn't quite work out.  BUT I haven't tried Low/No Code.  So how can I blog about something that I haven't done myself?

So I'm going to try it.  What the heck!  It could take some weekends and my company is on-premise.  BUT knowledge is power.  (And Learning is fun) So I can't say "No way" until I've tried it.  And of course their is the whole challenge of it.  Yes, I don't get the top  three.  I don't think I would have been there anyway to tell the truth.  My approach is going to try to program something simple.

What challenge?  100 day no-code/low code   I'm hoping to blow some of these reasons away, and cross them off of my list for good.   I may not even publish what I've done.  It depends on how well I can learn it, and if I really do have the time.

So stay-tuned.  No matter what I plan to write a follow up blog.  Also look for all of the blogs that will be out there.  As people get finished, they will be posting.  Before they get started they are posting.  It will be interesting to see all of the different views.

Different views - what do you think?  Have you used it?  Are you going to?

Another great link.

And here are some more great links - honestly I haven't tried them yet.   But will I?   It's free of course I will.

SAP Low-Code/No-Code Learning Journey - designed to increase low-code/no-code skills and teach citizen developers the basic concepts of software development and how to build mobile apps for free. Check out LCNC and much more free learning at SAP Learning site.
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Uli_Hoffmann
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert

Will be interesting to learn more about your findings! FYI, please find a learning course here, in SAP Learning.

s_hathaway
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert
Very cool, Michelle – I look forward to following your journey. As someone working on learning for LCNC users, your insights would be quite helpful. One request – blog topics paired with pics of your horses? Saw your bio - I love animals too, but living in the city at the moment so I have to limit myself to one dog. 😄
mmcisme1
Active Contributor
Me too!   It will be interesting - no matter what side I land on.
mmcisme1
Active Contributor
Maybe at the end?   I have lots of pictures, but not many uploaded.  🙂
Dan_Wroblewski
Developer Advocate
Developer Advocate

I know how you feel and it is good to be skeptical ... keep us updated on your journey -- and enter the contest: https://blogs.sap.com/2022/05/04/no-code-challenge-0-code-100-app-and-hoodies/

As to some of your concerns:

  • I have seen some attention paid to what IT will do and what the business user will do, especially in relation to SPA. See the discussion from Sapphire
  • I do believe there are things to do to get SAP AppGyver truly ready, as management has said, also in Sapphire materials -- destination support, deployment to BTP, and more are just around the corner, and these will make a big difference
  • I agree that the devil is in the details, and we will see if the workflow can be made simple enough for business users (and IT)

By the way, there are starting to be serious videos on YouTube about SAP and AppGyver integration, and the techniques will become even simpler as integration will be better supports.

Good luck 😀

StephanieMarley
Community Advocate
Community Advocate
Hi Michelle, Awesome blog! Challenge on -- fun for everyone (together) to figure out no way or yes way! Good luck!
mmcisme1
Active Contributor
I know.   I know.   Yet another reason to try it.   There is a lot of buzz around it.   And good supporting information.    So that will help in my quest to actually use it.

Really, this doesn't make me worried as a technical person.  We have a huge backlog of projects.  It also would be great to get off of the spreadsheets.  It just takes a lot of time for them.   Even if this got them partway there, they may love it.   I also know the learning curve can be very long.

Another thing for me is my company is on-premise.  So even if I learn it now.  I may not use it again for a long time or at all.  We have no plans to change at this moment.  Instead we are using bits and pieces of the cloud, and a lot of third party systems.

As for luck - I will Need it.  It's going to be more of a challenge in with my limited time spent on it.  Perhaps I'll like it so much, it will be like a good book I can't put down.
mmcisme1
Active Contributor
I hope to be a believer/supporter when I'm done.  This blog will "make" me learn it.

 
LuizGomes
Participant
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Does sap not use its look and feel in appgyver? Can we use a different look and feel than ui5?
mmcisme1
Active Contributor
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OK - Honestly I'm hoping someone else will answer.   Because I have no idea.  Hence my beginning to learn.  When I can answer your question I'll come back here.   Another great place to look is the forums.   When I have a specific question, my personal choice is to search for it in google.

I just didn't want you to think I didn't read it.   I try to read all my comments!
s_hathaway
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert
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Hi Michelle - I am curious to know about your experience with building an app for the LCNC challenge – how did it go?
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