Update 19.10.2019
I am happy to say that now, as of patch level 3, most of the issues listed here and in the comments have been solved. Patch level 3 especially solved the column width issues with table controls that made customizing very difficult or lead to columns not being displayed at all.
The day before yesterday SAP GUI 7.60 was released. I looked forward to finally trying out the Belize theme on non S/4HANA systems and I really like the new design. Unfortunately after just one day of use I noticed several issues with either the theme or SAP GUI 7.60 in general that I am going to list here. I would really like to use the new Belize theme, so I hope these can get fixed in a patch.
On 7.60 regardless of I am using the Belize theme or Blue Crystal the load times to get into a dynpro with an ALV on it have increased by a huge margin. Clicking on the "Yesterday" button in ST22 gets me into the list on 7.50 within half a second.
On 7.60 it's almost 2 seconds wait time (!).
I have this problem for every dynpro that contains an ALV. This is especially troublesome in SM50, where there are several ALVs (4) on the screen and you typically press the "Refresh" button quite often.
7.50:
7.60:
That's a 10 time increase in response time (!). Since this issue is theme independant I am tempted to dowgrade again, but it seems like you can only do so by completely reinstalling SAP GUI.
This is only occurs using the Belize theme. In any multi column tree ALV there is a delay when scrolling. You can scroll your mousewheel for half a second and wait 5 seconds until the tree has scrolled to the position. On Blue Crystal this is much faster.
The column widths seems to have been adjusted to be in line with the new default size of fonts in the Belize theme. There however are some side effects.
The multi selection for the company code does not show the last character of the company code. That means if I select company code 1001 and 1002 it looks like this:
Several transactions also have a pixel perfect width for every column in their ALVs so that they fit perfectly on a 1080p screen. While in Belize now the fullscreen ALV container finally uses the full width of the screen it shows less columns than before. In SM50 I cannot even see the column which contains the information what the process is currently doing without scrolling to the right (on a maximized window with 1080p resolution).
SM50 on Blue Crystal 7.60:
SM50 on Belize 7.60:
SE01 Transport task view (LIMU and CINC get cut):
I was able to fix the default column width in SM50 and several other transactions by changing the proportional font in the GUI settings to a non proportional one, like Lucida Console 11. I assume there is some kind of error in the width prediction. For example the CPU time column gets this default width with the new 72 font, size 11:
Even with the widest characters in the 72 font the cell should not take that much space.
And this is the more expected width with Lucida Console 11:
For reference on 7.60 width BlueCrystal (default Tahoma 11 font):
(Tahoma 11 on Belize also has a more reasonable width, so the cause might be the new 72 font?)
For some reason there is a black bar at the top of the screen for maximized windows using the Belize theme. This prohibits me from dragging the window by moving the mouse to the top of the screen. (I have enabled the smaller task bar in Windows, maybe that has something to do with it?)
In Belize only some of the total line background is colored in yellow. On Blue Crystal it's all the way around. Not sure if this change is intended but it makes it harder to read multi level totals in my opinion.
Belize:
Blue Crystal:
Without the group-line there is no background change at all in the totals line.
Belize:
Blue Crystal:
This by the way also always happens with the IDA ALV regardless of the theme.
Belize:
Blue Crystal:
In SE16 field values of a row are not on the same vertical height for some reason.
Belize:
Blue Crystal:
I don't have this problem on my other laptop. I assume it might have been caused by me messing with the font settings in an attempt to fix things. I however currently have set everything back to default and the issue is still there.
In some ALVs you cannot scroll by grabbing the scrollbar with the mouse, moving it the the position you want, and then releasing it. In SE16 for example you can only click and hold on the upper ~5 pixels of the scrollbar. Anything lower will result in behaviour as if you clicked on the background (single click on any position in the bar where the rectangle is not).
I can imagine the reason for this being the "hitbox" for the scrollbar to be as large as the correct percentage of the rows displayed. But the displayed scrollbar has a minimum size and is therefore larger.
-> You cannot grab the scrollbar on any point lower than the red line
With CL_GUI_CONTAINER_BAR* you can normally get containers and toolbar buttons in a specific configuration, where the container automatically takes the remaining space between the buttons. With Belize I now have scroll buttons because it somehow could not determine the height correctly. Instead the container should have been sized with less height, so that the buttons fit exactly.
Belize:
Blue Crystal:
This is especially noticeable in SE80:
For some messages the link to open the longtext is invisible.
Only once I hover over the place where it should be it appears.
In FBL5N there usually is an indicator at the bottom of the screen to inform the user how many items have been processed so far. In Belize there is no such information (even though on other occasions the progress indicator works fine with belize).
Belize:
Blue Crystal:
For the occasions where the progress indicator does work in Belize: Since it is now in centered in the screen if you have a popup screen (like a selection dialog) in the foreground, you cannot see the progress messages or even the loading indicator that used to be at the bottom of the screen.
In Eclipse every time you open a SAP GUI window it first has borders in main part of the screen. These disappear once you execute a dialog step.
I hope most of these are somehow related to my local configuration. I do however have these issues on two separate PCs. Hopefully these can get resolved. Otherwise it is very difficult to recommend switching to the new recommended Belize theme or even to upgrade from 7.50 at all.
CC frank.krause
I am happy to say that now, as of patch level 3, most of the issues listed here and in the comments have been solved. Patch level 3 especially solved the column width issues with table controls that made customizing very difficult or lead to columns not being displayed at all.
The day before yesterday SAP GUI 7.60 was released. I looked forward to finally trying out the Belize theme on non S/4HANA systems and I really like the new design. Unfortunately after just one day of use I noticed several issues with either the theme or SAP GUI 7.60 in general that I am going to list here. I would really like to use the new Belize theme, so I hope these can get fixed in a patch.
ALV performance has decreased significantly
On 7.60 regardless of I am using the Belize theme or Blue Crystal the load times to get into a dynpro with an ALV on it have increased by a huge margin. Clicking on the "Yesterday" button in ST22 gets me into the list on 7.50 within half a second.
On 7.60 it's almost 2 seconds wait time (!).
I have this problem for every dynpro that contains an ALV. This is especially troublesome in SM50, where there are several ALVs (4) on the screen and you typically press the "Refresh" button quite often.
7.50:
7.60:
That's a 10 time increase in response time (!). Since this issue is theme independant I am tempted to dowgrade again, but it seems like you can only do so by completely reinstalling SAP GUI.
Tree ALV scroll behaviour in Belize
This is only occurs using the Belize theme. In any multi column tree ALV there is a delay when scrolling. You can scroll your mousewheel for half a second and wait 5 seconds until the tree has scrolled to the position. On Blue Crystal this is much faster.
Column widths in ALVs and table controls
The column widths seems to have been adjusted to be in line with the new default size of fonts in the Belize theme. There however are some side effects.
The multi selection for the company code does not show the last character of the company code. That means if I select company code 1001 and 1002 it looks like this:
Several transactions also have a pixel perfect width for every column in their ALVs so that they fit perfectly on a 1080p screen. While in Belize now the fullscreen ALV container finally uses the full width of the screen it shows less columns than before. In SM50 I cannot even see the column which contains the information what the process is currently doing without scrolling to the right (on a maximized window with 1080p resolution).
SM50 on Blue Crystal 7.60:
SM50 on Belize 7.60:
SE01 Transport task view (LIMU and CINC get cut):
I was able to fix the default column width in SM50 and several other transactions by changing the proportional font in the GUI settings to a non proportional one, like Lucida Console 11. I assume there is some kind of error in the width prediction. For example the CPU time column gets this default width with the new 72 font, size 11:
Even with the widest characters in the 72 font the cell should not take that much space.
And this is the more expected width with Lucida Console 11:
For reference on 7.60 width BlueCrystal (default Tahoma 11 font):
(Tahoma 11 on Belize also has a more reasonable width, so the cause might be the new 72 font?)
Black bar at the top of maximized GUI window
For some reason there is a black bar at the top of the screen for maximized windows using the Belize theme. This prohibits me from dragging the window by moving the mouse to the top of the screen. (I have enabled the smaller task bar in Windows, maybe that has something to do with it?)
ALV totals line background
In Belize only some of the total line background is colored in yellow. On Blue Crystal it's all the way around. Not sure if this change is intended but it makes it harder to read multi level totals in my opinion.
Belize:
Blue Crystal:
Without the group-line there is no background change at all in the totals line.
Belize:
Blue Crystal:
Amount fields with signs are not aligned in ALVs
This by the way also always happens with the IDA ALV regardless of the theme.
Belize:
Blue Crystal:
ALV vertical field alignment
In SE16 field values of a row are not on the same vertical height for some reason.
Belize:
Blue Crystal:
I don't have this problem on my other laptop. I assume it might have been caused by me messing with the font settings in an attempt to fix things. I however currently have set everything back to default and the issue is still there.
ALV scrollbar
In some ALVs you cannot scroll by grabbing the scrollbar with the mouse, moving it the the position you want, and then releasing it. In SE16 for example you can only click and hold on the upper ~5 pixels of the scrollbar. Anything lower will result in behaviour as if you clicked on the background (single click on any position in the bar where the rectangle is not).
I can imagine the reason for this being the "hitbox" for the scrollbar to be as large as the correct percentage of the rows displayed. But the displayed scrollbar has a minimum size and is therefore larger.
-> You cannot grab the scrollbar on any point lower than the red line
Container Bar shows scroll buttons
With CL_GUI_CONTAINER_BAR* you can normally get containers and toolbar buttons in a specific configuration, where the container automatically takes the remaining space between the buttons. With Belize I now have scroll buttons because it somehow could not determine the height correctly. Instead the container should have been sized with less height, so that the buttons fit exactly.
Belize:
Blue Crystal:
This is especially noticeable in SE80:
Show longtext link missing
For some messages the link to open the longtext is invisible.
Only once I hover over the place where it should be it appears.
Some progress indicator messages are not displayed
In FBL5N there usually is an indicator at the bottom of the screen to inform the user how many items have been processed so far. In Belize there is no such information (even though on other occasions the progress indicator works fine with belize).
Belize:
Blue Crystal:
For the occasions where the progress indicator does work in Belize: Since it is now in centered in the screen if you have a popup screen (like a selection dialog) in the foreground, you cannot see the progress messages or even the loading indicator that used to be at the bottom of the screen.
Black border in embedded SAP GUI in Eclipse
In Eclipse every time you open a SAP GUI window it first has borders in main part of the screen. These disappear once you execute a dialog step.
I hope most of these are somehow related to my local configuration. I do however have these issues on two separate PCs. Hopefully these can get resolved. Otherwise it is very difficult to recommend switching to the new recommended Belize theme or even to upgrade from 7.50 at all.
CC frank.krause
- SAP Managed Tags:
81 Comments
