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SAP GUI for Windows 8.00: 64bit version coming (in addition to the 32bit version)

Update: The registration for the beta program was open and is now closed:
https://blogs.sap.com/2022/05/02/sap-gui-for-windows-8.00-beta-program-call-for-participation/

Hello Community,

until now, SAP GUI for Windows is only available as a 32bit version with the exception being the 64bit versions of the automation controls (Logon Control, Table Factory Control, BAPI Control and Function Control) that we introduced in SAP GUI for Windows 7.70.

The 32bit version works well on 64bit operating systems and runs in the so-called “emulation” (see also https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/winprog64/running-32-bit-applications). However, this has a couple of drawbacks when it comes to memory utilization and integration with other 64bit processes. The most important limitation in this area was overcome when we started supporting 64bit Microsoft Office versions in SAP Desktop Office Integration.

Regardless of this, we keep getting requests for full 64bit support in SAP GUI for Windows and thus decided to implement, deliver and support such a version. For us this comes with a very high effort, because SAP GUI is huge in terms of codebase, but also when it comes to integrating third party content (which also needs adjustments).

When we started the project about a year ago we were uncertain whether we would be successful, but now I am running a 64bit version on my device since months without major issues and I can watch the functional scope keeping to grow and grow.
At this point of time in the project lifetime we have reached a level of certainty that allows me to tell you that we are very likely going to have a 64bit version in SAP GUI for Windows 8.00 (scheduled delivery Q1/2023).

And this is how it looks:

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64bit version of SAP GUI for Windows 8.00

Yes, it of course is our intention to make it look and behave like the 32bit version as far as possible.

Some pieces of information which are important for you to know:
– We will deliver both a 32bit and a 64bit version with general support
– The 32bit and 64bit version cannot be installed in parallel. We tried this, but we were facing severe issues. Additionally, who except the development and the support team wants to run two SAP GUI versions which both need to be patched on a client?
– The delivery media will contain both components and the various SAP GUI Add-Ons
– There will be individual patches for the 32bit and the 64bit version, but their shipment is aligned
– The 64bit version may not include some features. If so, we will publish a list of these features in advance. Presently we are confident the number of such missing features will be low. Our clear goal is to come as close as possible to the functional scope of the 32bit version
– We consciously decided not to support SAP systems with SAP_BASIS releases older than 7.00 with the 64bit version to allow us some future improvements that the 32bit version will never be able to offer. However, the 32bit version will of course continue to support older systems

This is also an important information for vendors which contribute to the SAP GUI world by providing Add-Ons or controls to SAP GUI: If you are developing or supporting such a piece of software, you should start thinking about a 64bit version (if you haven’t already done so).

In our project still a lot remains to be done, but we have already achieved a lot and the present version is very promising. Therefore, we decided once more to offer a Beta Program for SAP GUI for Windows 8.00 with the main focus area being the 64bit version. We will run this program in July 2022 and likely call for participation in April or May 2022. Therefore, stay tuned!

Please notice that whatever I said above reflects the current state of our planning and that some details may be subject to change.

Kind regards,
Frank Krause
Product Owner SAP GUI for Windows
on behalf of the SAP GUI for Windows Team

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      Author's profile photo Stefan Schnell
      Stefan Schnell

      Hello Frank Krause,

      thank you very much for sharing this information, that sounds very exciting.

      Best regards
      Stefan

      Author's profile photo Thomas Müller
      Thomas Müller

      This is cool! The SAP GUI control framework is such a great concept. You should do more marketing for that.

      Thanks and best regards,

      Thomas

       

      Author's profile photo Stefan Schnell
      Stefan Schnell

      Great Thomas Müller 😊

      Author's profile photo Björn Trabes
      Björn Trabes

      sounds great 👍

      where can i register for alpha/beta testing ... 😁

      Author's profile photo Andrea Borgia
      Andrea Borgia

      Well, they did say april / may 2022 for the call for participation, so that's a good question 🙂

      Author's profile photo Markus Karsch
      Markus Karsch

      Any changes in GUI 8.00 64bit expected to better support Microsoft Word as SAPscript Editor or a new editor planned which is not dependent on 3rd party software? See details in my question asked at:

      Only Microsoft Word as SAPscript Editor in S/4 | SAP Community

      Author's profile photo Frank Krause
      Frank Krause
      Blog Post Author

      Hi Markus,

      no, this won't change - at least not due to the creation of a 64bit version of SAP GUI for Windows.
      And since the SAPscript integration is not directly a topic handled by the SAP GUI team, I do not want to answer your question (not that I could...).

      But regarding the 3rd party software you refer to: At the moment it is not entirely certain whether the SAPScript Legacy Components (this is probably what you refer to) will make it into the 64bit world.

      Best regards,
      Frank

      Author's profile photo Adam Barolsky
      Adam Barolsky

      Hello Frank

      Will the 64-bit version provide scope to address some of the current restrictions in SAP GUI? For example, many applications behave as if the screen resolution is still the same as it was in the 1990's. One example is transaction PA20/ PA30. The Overview screen (3000) requires horizontal scrolling to see more than the first few fields.  This can have a significant impact on usability, especially when fields like the Lock indicator (padlock) are hidden from view.

       

      Thanks

      Adam

      Author's profile photo Frank Krause
      Frank Krause
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Adam,

      these are not SAP GUI restrictions, but restrictions of the server / the programming model overall.
      SAP GUI cannot do anything about this and a 64bit version won't change this either.
      You always need to keep in mind: SAP GUI displays what the server tells it to display.
      Simply put: If we get a wide screen, we display it wide, if we get a narrow screen, we display it narrow.
      The automatic wide rendering that was introduced in Belize (when SAP Fiori features are on) is also not a SAP GUI feature, but an SAP Kernel feature. The SAP Kernel / Application is doing all the layouting.

      Best regards,
      Frank

      Author's profile photo leon Kennedy
      leon Kennedy

      Hello Frank

      I'm sorry that I missed the plan to participate in the beta version, because the current version 7.70 will cause the program crashes, especially affecting daily use, so I want to try whether there will be such a situation in version 8.0. I wonder if I can have such a chance to try the beta version?

      Best regards,
      Leon

      Author's profile photo Frank Krause
      Frank Krause
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Leon,

      I am sorry, but the program is closed, because we have enough participants:
      However, I doubt that an issue in 7.70 is "magically" fixed in 8.00.
      If we would have detected and resolved a crash during the 8.00 development, we would have downported this fix to 7.70 as well.

      The right approach in such a case is a customer incident.
      And as per our experience, the crashes - especially in the recent past - were often not caused by SAP GUI, but by components integrating with SAP GUI, like PDF viewers or IMEs. Having said that: We should analyze the concrete issue you are facing.

      Best regards,
      Frank

      Author's profile photo leon Kennedy
      leon Kennedy

      Hello Frank,

      I have call a customer incident a month ago, but sap consultant still haven't found the problem that caused SAP GUI crash! That's why I want to try this version 8.0 64 bit software!

      So please, Let me participate in this beta program. It is really very important!

       

      Best regards,
      Leon

      Author's profile photo Frank Krause
      Frank Krause
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Leon,

      the 8.00 Beta Program is not for checking whether issues have suddenly disappeared, but for testing new functionality and providing feedback regarding this.
      For functional issues we need to use the support process. You can mail me the incident ID that you have created and I will have a look.

      Best regards,
      Frank

      Author's profile photo leon Kennedy
      leon Kennedy

      Hello Frank,

      OK, give me your mail address please!

       

      Best regards,
      Leon

      Author's profile photo leon Kennedy
      leon Kennedy
      Hello Frank,
       incident ID:
      427406 / 2022 The sap GUI crashes frequently
      Best regards,
      Leon
      Author's profile photo Frank Krause
      Frank Krause
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Leon,

      this is exactly what I mentioned above already.
      The crash is not caused by SAP GUI, but by the IME which hooks into SAP GUI.
      We have seen similar issues recently. In my opinion this needs to be reported to the vendor being responsible for this IME.

      You can use the Microsoft IME instead. With that IME other customers are not experiencing any crashes.

      Best regards,
      Frank

      Author's profile photo Markus Schick
      Markus Schick

      Hello,

      please give the icons (more) colors again. The monochrome themes like Quartz are rejected by the user in my experience! We are no longer in the 80s....

      Kind Regards

      Markus

       

      Author's profile photo Gerard Keane
      Gerard Keane

      Hi Markus,

      Thank you for the valuable feedback. Currently, the icons are an icon font format in SAP GUI, where only monochrome is possible without additional technical glyph layering complications.

      Ideally, all icons in SAP GUI should be easily understood, without a lot of complicated detailed shapes, that might be only understood by separations of color.  From a visual accessibility point of view, we should not only have to depend on color to be able to understand the icons but we need to consider the metaphor shapes too. Many modern framework design systems use monochromatic icons but almost all have simplified the shapes. If the design and development teams can evaluate a requirement to introduce color, then these icons would need to be an SVG icon set, where having colored icons is much easier to handle with styling and must be possible for the technology to implement.

      We are always happy for such feedback that contributes to future iterations and any possible improvements in the overall user experience.

      Kind Regards

      Gerry

      Author's profile photo Dominik Trefzer
      Dominik Trefzer

      Hi Gerard Keane ,

      just my 2 cents here: it is (sadly) true, that "a lot of modern framework design systems use monochromatic icons". With the huge amount of buttons an SAP GUI user is confronted with, there really needs to be a differentiator other than shape to quickly find the icon one is looking for. Recognition of color happens on a subconcious, faster level than shape. So an experienced user can navigate much faster with the help of color (of course, color blindness is a thing but that's an exception not the rule).

      So here is my vote as well to please add color back into the icons with the modern SAP GUI themes.

      Kind regards

      Dominik

      Author's profile photo Jens Zähringer
      Jens Zähringer

      Hi Gerard Keane

      I just want to mention that I also would prefer to have more colorful icons again in SAP GUI.

      These icons are (one of the) the reasons why I used the Corbu theme for a long time. Recently I started to "force" myself to use the new Quartz theme. But to be honest, I still prefer the Corbu theme. Related to the icons, I find 3 times as fast the correct function via the icon and do not have to search long or read the tooltip.

      Another point is that the entire structure of the Corbu theme somehow seems more "compact" and is therefore much clearer for me than the new themes.

      Kind regards
      Jens

      Author's profile photo Jens Zähringer
      Jens Zähringer

      Hi Frank Krause, ,

      I have a small request for the new version of SAP GUI for Windows.

      As I am still working a lot of customer that still have older releases and therefore also GUI-related applications, I use often the functionality to open a SAP GUI-windows inside of the ABAP Development Tools in Eclipse (ADT). My problem is that ADT is not able to show the title of the actual session in the tab title in Eclipse. It's only possible when a GUI-related object is directly opened in ADT, but there is no option to have this information as well when a general GUI-window is opened in ADT and the transaction code is entered in this window (for example).

      So the tab titles just show the name of the ABAP-project in ADT and absolut no information about the opened transaction in the GUI-related tab.

      I already discussed this topic as well with Thomas Fiedler and he told me that they are not able to get the title in ADT as SAP GUI does not provide this information in case of a title-change (as a kind of event that can be consumed by ADT).

      As the new SAP GUI seems to be a major new release, I hope that my request is not too complex to be implemented. I would be really thankful if such an implementation would be possible 🙂

       

      Thank you very much! 🙂

       

      Kind regards
      Jens

      Author's profile photo Frank Krause
      Frank Krause
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Jens,

      thank you for your proposal, but it is already way too late for that, because SAP GUI for Windows 8.00 is already in the stages of final testing and SAP internal roll-out.
      Thus, including something new is no longer possible.

      However, I will have a look at your proposal and then we will see what we can do when.

      Best regards,
      Frank

       

      Author's profile photo Jens Zähringer
      Jens Zähringer

      Hi Frank,

      okay, thank you for checking again this proposal. Maybe this can be shipped as well with an update for the new SAP GUI.

      Is there already an rough estimate when the new version 8.0 will be published?

      Kind regards
      Jens

      Author's profile photo Frank Krause
      Frank Krause
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Jens,

      as mentioned above we would like to ship in Q1/2023. And it will not be March if everything is working as expected 🙂

      Best regards,
      Frank

      Author's profile photo ILIAN Grigorov
      ILIAN Grigorov

      Many thanks for the information. It is good to check the new 64bit version when available.

      Will it be possible to upgrade an old SAP GUI to 8.00 64bit, or you need to do a clean installation (i.e. because the old GUI is 32bit)?

      Thank you!

      Author's profile photo Frank Krause
      Frank Krause
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Ilian,

      from installation (NWSAPSetup) perspective, the 64bit version of SAP GUI for Windows is a different "product". This is needed for several reasons (foremost one because the 32bit version still exists) and this also means that you cannot upgrade automatically. You first need to uninstall the 32bit version and the associated components and then you can install the 64bit version.

      Best regards,
      Frank