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From Neo to Multi-Cloud: How Our Services Are Evolving

SAP has been following a “multi-cloud first” strategy for the past years already, ensuring that our SAP  Cloud Platform portfolio is available on  a multi-cloud foundation. In order to give our customers more regional and operational choice for their SAP Cloud Platform based extension and integration solutions, we bring our mostly used services to the Cloud Foundry environment, in which the following services are almost functionally equivalent to their offering in the Neo environment.

    • SAP Cloud Platform Integration: Cloud Integration is available as part of the SAP Cloud Platform Integration Suite. For an overview on existing constraints compared to the Neo environment, see SAP Note 2752867. If you would like to migrate your CPI-PI in Neo environment to CPI-PI running in CF environment. You can find the migration accelerator guide here.
    • SAP Cloud Platform Mobile Services: SAP Cloud Platform Mobile Services in the Cloud Foundry environment is largely identical to its predecessor in the Neo environment, but there might be some differences or changes that are of interest to you. You find an overview here: Migrate: SAP Cloud Platform Mobile Services Neo to Cloud Foundry
    • SAP Cloud Platform Portal: A list of service restrictions in SAP Cloud Platform Cloud Foundry environment (compared to the Neo environment) can be found in SAP Note 2902576. For the latest product roadmap, see SAP Cloud Platform Portal Roadmap
      **Update:We introduce the new SAP Cloud Platform Launchpad service on SAP Cloud Platform (Cloud Foundry environment) and share first insights about this new exciting service. We encourage you to sign up the free trial of Launchpad service here.

In the light of future development focus, we evolved our product by offering new and advanced alternatives that will enable our customers to innovate further. We have new services available in the Cloud Foundry environment and you should consider them based on your individual needs.

In some cases, our offerings still depend on the Neo environment. Therefore, we cannot simply move them to the Cloud Foundry environment, but you can continue consuming the functionalities, for example:

  • HTML5 Runtime: You can develop HTML5 applications using the managed application router through SAP Cloud Platform Portal (see here) or using the SAP Cloud Platform Application Runtime (see here).
  • Java Server: You can use the SAP JAVA buildpack for running JVM-based applications through the SAP Cloud Platform Application Runtime. Read more here.

Last but not the least, we want to take a moment to say a big thank you. Our customers and partners mean everything to us, and we hope that you continue to share our vision and join us on the multicloud journey. And we understand that migration will take some time and it will need to be done carefully, so we want to let you know that we’ll be with you every step of the way. If you plan to migrate your current application, please check out our migration guide here.

Let us know if you have any feedback.

Further readings:

Disclaimer: All forward-looking roadmap statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of their dates, and they should not be relied upon in making purchasing decisions.

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      Author's profile photo Shobhit Taggar
      Shobhit Taggar

      Hi, We are looking for implementing an CPI Service for our client. Is this service is only available on cloud foundry for new customers ?

      Author's profile photo Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Blog Post Author

      Hi Shobhit,

      CPI is available on both Neo and CF. However, since May we offer Cloud Platform Integration Suite (CPIS) for our new customers in Cloud Foundry environment. I will recommend you to check this website to gain the latest service availability information:

      https://help.sap.com/doc/aa1ccd10da6c4337aa737df2ead1855b/Cloud/en-US/3b642f68227b4b1398d2ce1a5351389a.html

       

      Best,
      Sandy

      Author's profile photo Chris Paine
      Chris Paine

      Hi - just wanted to clarify - in the Estimator tool it says:

      "This service is scheduled to be retired as of February 28th, 2021. It will be available until the end of the current subscription term. It will not be available for renewal terms that begin after the retirement date."

       

      I thought that existing customers would be able to renew - is this not going to be the case?

      Thanks,

      Chris

      Author's profile photo Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Blog Post Author

      Hi Chris,

      Could you send me the link of the service so that I can investigate where the notification comes from?

      Thanks,
      Sandy

      Author's profile photo Bohan Liu
      Bohan Liu

      Hi,

      The warning is coming from the cloud platform pricing estimator. And the "learn more" link led to this post.

      https://www.sap.com/australia/products/cloud-platform/pricing/estimator-tool.html

      Thanks,

      Bohan

      Author's profile photo Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Blog Post Author

      Hi Bohan and Chris,

       

      I have clarified with our commercialisation team colleague and this statement is relevant only for the CPEA customers. The subscription auto renewal will be still active.

       

      I hope it helps,

      Sandy

      Author's profile photo Manon BOLOCH
      Manon BOLOCH

      Hi,

      We have JAVA applications which run on the JAVA Server service in the Neo environment. as mentioned on this link (https://discovery-center.cloud.sap/serviceCatalog/ae11cc3f-ed4c-406f-a73d-0b46e7ed6826) and according to your article, this service will soon no longer exist. How then to continue to use these applications? We cannot migrate to Cloud Foundry but want to continue using Neo and Java Server ... Do you have any idea ?

      Thanks

      Author's profile photo Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Blog Post Author

      Hi Manon,

      For CPEA, no new instances would be possible after renewal, but the subscription customers can continue using the JAVA Server and renewal is allowed.

      Best regards,

      Sandy

      Author's profile photo Claudio Buiatti
      Claudio Buiatti

      Hi, by "new instances", you mean that customers will not be able to create new Java Servers from February 28th, 2021, but they still can use the ones they adquired prior to that due date, right?

      Regards,

      Claudio.-

      Author's profile photo Matthias Braeuer
      Matthias Braeuer

      Hi Yun-Hsuan

      Are there plans to move the SAP Cloud Platform Forms by Adobe Service to the multi-cloud environment and CF runtime?

      I understand from your blogs that new customers without an existing CPEA would only have the option to purchase a subscription from the SAP Store if they want to use services on Neo (given that new CPEA customers must provision any services in data centres that run the multi-cloud environment)?

      Thanks for any advice and best regards

      Matt

      Author's profile photo Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Blog Post Author

      Hi Matthias,

       

      thanks for reaching out. We plan to have Adobe service available in the near future in the multi-cloud environment. Regarding the current strategy, the multi-cloud is the default provisioning system for new customers as of July. It indicates that new CPEA customers will by default provisioned on cloud foundry. But we also offer exception for the customers who insisted on using Neo, please advise the customer to consult with their AE.

      Best regards,

      Sandy

      Author's profile photo Steve Curry
      Steve Curry

      Thank you for the informative blog.  Can you tell when the Forms by Adobe service will be available in Cloud Foundry, and if it will have the same capability as that in Neo?

      Author's profile photo Steve Curry
      Steve Curry

      I was able to find the following in the roadmap explorer, so I'm good:

      https://roadmaps.sap.com/board?PRODUCT=73555000100800000066&range=CURRENT-LAST#Q1%202021

      Author's profile photo Chia-Yu Wu
      Chia-Yu Wu

      Hi Yun-Hsuan,

       

      is there by any chance, that you have any best practices or documentation on migration between Neo SAP Analytics Cloud to Cloud Foundry SAC?

      Best regards,

      Chia-Yu

      Author's profile photo Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Blog Post Author

      Hi Chia Yu,

       

      Please take a look at our SAC migration journey website and let me know if you have further questions.

       

      https://saphanajourney.com/sap-analytics-cloud/neo-to-cloud-foundry/

       

      Best regards,

      Sandy

      Author's profile photo PUNNA RAO
      PUNNA RAO

      Hi Yun-Hsuan,

      I have created the account in SAP Cloud Platform Trial .  I would  like to subscribe to the portal service. But in my account i didn't get the Portal subscription and  Theme designer  subscription  .
      I would like to Create  Own Portal Freestyle Site and show it to my client . Is it required the Neo account for getting the portal service ?
      I didn't see the Neo train account in "https://account.hanatrial.ondemand.com"
      How can i get portal service and  Create  Own Portal Freestyle Site ?
      Kindly provide the information
      Thanks & Regards
      Punna
      Author's profile photo Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Blog Post Author

      Hi Punna,

      Since we introduced the Launchpad service to the Cloud Platform trial environment, we removed the portal service from the trial environment in October 22nd (for new trial accounts)

      https://blogs.sap.com/2020/09/08/start-your-free-trial-for-sap-cloud-platform-launchpad/

      I will update my blog accordingly to reflect the latest status.

      Could you please let me know if you can see Launchpad service in your trial account?

       

      Best regards,
      Sandy

      Author's profile photo Sreekanth Surampally
      Sreekanth Surampally

      Hi Sandy,  If we are migrating from HANA on Neo to HANA cloud on CF environment, can we still access Git Service which is only available in Neo Environment?   If yes, is that to be included in a different new contract?

      Author's profile photo Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Blog Post Author

      Hi Sreekanth,

      I will check back with the respective HANA team and reply to your question asap.

      Thanks for your patience.

      Cheers,

      Sandy

      Author's profile photo Pieter Janssens
      Pieter Janssens

      What is the solution to replace the SuccessFactors site template from Neo's Portal service which provides a SuccessFactors header around a custom SuccessFactors extension application?

      Author's profile photo Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Blog Post Author

      Hi Pieter,

      the responsible team mentioned that this is a known topic and they are working with the SFSF team to outline the ‘updated’ strategy for this scenario.

      Best regards,

      Sandy

      Author's profile photo Sreekanth Surampally
      Sreekanth Surampally

      Hi Sandy,  how about availability of CPI-DS (Cloud Platform Integration for Data Services)  on multi Cloud Environment CF?   currently it is available on Neo platform only. Would it be migrated to CF soon?  or will there be an alternative service provided for this?

      Author's profile photo Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Yun-Hsuan Lin
      Blog Post Author

      Hi Sreekanth,

      CPI-DS is available only on NEO platform, there is no plan to migrate to CF. Main usecase of CPI-DS is IBP integration , CPI-DS will continue to be available on NEO. You could look into SAP Data Intelligence cloud for CF

      https://help.sap.com/viewer/product/SAP_DATA_INTELLIGENCE/Cloud/en-US

       

      I hope it helps.

       

      Best regards,

      Sandy