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SAP S/4HANA Cloud and On-Premise Deployment Options

Last updated: July 7 2021

This blog targets SAP solution architects and explains the different deployment options for SAP S/4HANA. I have used the latest terminology. It covers cloud, on-premise and hosted deployment options. Here are the options discussed:

  1. SAP S/4HANA Cloud: previously called essentials edition (ES) and Multi-Tenant Edition.
  2. SAP S/4HANA Cloud extended edition: previously called Single-Tenant Edition
  3. SAP S/4HANA Cloud, private edition (new in 2021).
  4. SAP S/4HANA On-Premise managed by SAP (HEC)
  5. SAP S/4HANA On-Premise: On-Premise or managed by cloud provider Hyperscalers

I cover the following aspects of each option: infrastructure, license, how upgrades are managed, scope (functional, country and industry), configuration, extensibility (how solution can be extended beyond configuration) and implementation (possible approaches). All options can be implemented by the customer, SAP or a partner.

I also cover which roadmap of the SAP Activate implementation methodology is relevant, what SAP Best Practices are used and what tools are relevant. See my other blog for an overview of SAP Best Practices and Model Companies.

1. SAP S/4HANA Cloud 

Commonly used by net new customers that want the full cloud approach with regular upgrades that include new configuration and new software. Also used for subsidiaries alongside SAP on-premise implementations.

  • Infrastructure: public cloud shared with other customers and hosted and operated by SAP only
  • License: subscription for Software as a Service (available as RISE with SAP).
  • Upgrades: managed by SAP. fixed and mandatory (configuration and software). The upgrade of configuration is unique to Essentials Edition. SAP and customer do automated and manual regression tests.
  • Scope: core ERP (subset of full ERP) and specific industries and 42 countries
  • Extensibility: Key user extensibility and extensions through SAP Business Technology Platform Extension Suite (side-by-side extensibility) with whitelisted APIs.
  • Configuration: use Self Service Configuration User Interfaces (SSCUIs) based on fit-to-standard workshops in the Explore phase
  • Implementation: greenfield only (new implementation)
  • SAP Activate roadmap: SAP Activate Methodology for SAP S/4HANA Cloud
  • SAP Best Practices: scope is selected from these cloud-specific Best Practices. https://rapid.sap.com/bp/#/BP_CLD_ENTPR
  • Partner content: partners can add configuration manually.
  • You can choose to use the Implementation Portal for SAP S/4HANA Cloud to manage your project. See: https://support.sap.com/en/alm/sap-cloud-alm/implementation-portal.html

Unlike all the other deployment options, the user interface is purely Fiori launchpad and configuration is done using SSCUIs and not the IMG.

 

2. SAP S/4HANA Cloud extended edition 

Has advantages of the cloud with more flexibility and control. Has standardized infrastructure processes, services and SLAs. There must be more than a certain minimum number of users i.e. this option is for mid and large size customers.

  • Infrastructure: dedicated landscape on cloud infrastructure operated by SAP (SAP or Hyperscaler e.g. Microsoft Azure, AWS, Google Cloud)
  • License: subscription for software
  • Upgrades: must upgrade software every 2 years. SAP and customer manage the upgrade process and SAP and customer do regression testing.
  • Scope: same S/4HANA functional scope as on-premise. 64 countries, 39, languages and 25 industries. Some third-party add-on limitations.
  • Extensibility: In-App extensibility including key user extensibility and some classic ABAP extensibility but no modifications. Also extensions through SAP Business Technology Platform Extension Suite (side-by-side extensibility). See PDF in SAP note 2920697.
  • Configuration: use the IMG based on fit-to-standard workshops in the Explore phase. Some restrictions apply.
  • Implementation: greenfield (new implementation)
  • SAP Activate roadmap: SAP Activate Methodology for SAP S/4HANA Cloud EX
  • SAP Best Practices: SAP Best Practices are available. Enterprise Management Layer (like the Multi-national corporation Model Company) is included in the subscription and is available for a production system  Note: the on-premise Best Practices are used https://rapid.sap.com/bp/BP_OP_ENTPR
  • Partner content: partners can add configuration manually.
  • Customers use SAP Solution Manager and/or Cloud ALM to manage their project design.

Also see this blog on the 5 golden rules for extended edition (formerly single tenant edition). https://blogs.sap.com/2018/07/28/the-5-golden-rules-for-implementing-sap-s4hana-cloud-single-tenant-edition/

 

3. SAP S/4HANA Cloud private edition 

Has advantages of the cloud with the ability to move to cloud using a system conversion. Has standardized infrastructure processes, services and SLAs.

  • Infrastructure: dedicated landscape on cloud infrastructure operated by SAP and running at a Hyperscaler e.g. Microsoft Azure, AWS, Google Cloud)
  • License: subscription for software (available as RISE with SAP).
  • Upgrades: annual is available but you chose your own speed but must stay in mainstream support. The customer must manage the upgrade process. SAP does specific technical  aspects of the upgrade only.
  • Scope: same S/4HANA functional scope as on-premise. 64 countries, 39, languages and 25 industries. Some third-party add-on limitations.
  • Extensibility: In-App extensibility including key user extensibility and classic ABAP extensibility. Modifications are not recommended but are available. Also extensions through SAP Business Technology Platform Extension Suite (side-by-side extensibility).
  • Configuration: use the IMG based on fit-to-standard workshops in the Explore phase.
  • Implementation: greenfield (new implementation), system conversion or selective data transition
  • SAP Activate roadmap: SAP Activate Methodology for SAP S/4HANA Cloud private edition
  • SAP Best Practices: SAP Best Practices are available. Enterprise Management Layer (like the Multi-national corporation Model Company) is available for a production system  Note: the on-premise Best Practices are used https://rapid.sap.com/bp/BP_OP_ENTPR
  • Partner content: partners templates allowed.
  • Customers use SAP Solution Manager and/or Cloud ALM to manage their project design.

 

 

4. SAP S/4HANA On-Premise managed by SAP (HEC)

An on-premise solution with individual and private hardware and infrastructure hosted by SAP, a hyperscaler or in your own data center. Infrastructure management delegated to SAP with flexible service offerings.

  • Infrastructure: customer specific landscape on SAP HANA Enterprise Cloud (HEC) in SAP data centre or at a hyperscaler or in your own data center: SAP S/4HANA Cloud, private edition, customer data center option.
  • License: Bring Your Own License and infrastructure subscription
  • Upgrades: annual and you choose your own speed of adoption (software). Customer is responsible for managing the upgrade.
  • Scope: full S/4HANA functional, country and industry scope and partner add-ons
  • Extensibility: customization, modification, and extensibility possible as with ERP
  • Configuration: use the full IMG based on a fit-to-standard approach in the Explore phase
  • Implementation: new implementation, system conversions or selective data transition
  • SAP Activate roadmap: Transition to SAP S/4HANA
  • SAP Best Practices: all SAP Best Practices and Model Companies are available. https://rapid.sap.com/bp/BP_OP_ENTPR
  • Partner content: partner templates allowed.
  • Customers use SAP Solution Manager to manage their project design. Most customers use SAP Best Practices activated using SAP Solution Builder or set up by SAP through a Model Company service.

The SAP Activate roadmap has 3 approaches: new implementation, system conversion or selective data transition. The term “selective data transition” is used instead of “landscape transformation” in the latest version of the roadmap. In this approach, there are tools to selectively transfer configuration and custom code from your old ERP system to a new SAP S/4HANA instance. System conversion involves converting your existing ERP system into SAP S/4HANA by migrating the database, applying software updates and doing a data conversion from the old data model to the new S/4HANA data model.

 

5. SAP S/4HANA Any Premise: On-Premise or managed by cloud providers Hyperscaler

On-premise SAP S/4HANA managed by the customer in their own data centre or managed by a third party.

  • Infrastructure: customer data centre or hosted by hyperscaler (e.g. e.g. Microsoft Azure, AWS, Google Cloud)
  • License: perpetual or Bring Your own License
  • Upgrades: annual and you choose your own speed of adoption (software). Customer is responsible for managing the upgrade.
  • Scope: full S/4HANA functional, country and industry scope and partner add-ons
  • Extensibility: customization, modification, and extensibility possible as with ERP
  • Configuration: use the full IMG based on a fit-to-standard approach in the Explore phase
  • Implementation: new implementation, system conversions or selective data transition
  • SAP Activate roadmap: Transition to SAP S/4HANA
  • SAP Best Practices: all SAP Best Practices and Model Companies are available for sandbox systems. https://rapid.sap.com/bp/BP_OP_ENTPR
  • Partner content: partner templates allowed.
  • Customers may use SAP Solution Manager to manage their project design. Many customers use SAP Best Practices activated using SAP Solution Builder or set up by SAP through a Model Company service.

What will influence your choice of deployment option? Organizations that are completely new to SAP will do a new “greenfield” implementation and can choose any option 1 to 5. What about if you are currently running the on-premise ERP Business Suite and want to move to S/4HANA?

  • The route selected by 50% of customers is a “system conversion” where your existing system is converted to S/4HANA. This means option 3, 4 or 5.
  • If you want to start again on a new page and do a “new implementation”, you can choose any deployment option. Note: option 1 may not cover all the processes and scope in your current solution.
  • The “selective data transition” approach allows you to take some of your existing solution into a new S/4HANA instance. Option 3, 4 or 5 can be used.  5% of customers choose this approach.

See me related blog on moving to S/4HANA from ERP: https://blogs.sap.com/2019/10/30/how-to-move-to-sap-s4hana/.  This blog may also be helpful:https://blogs.sap.com/2020/05/11/sap-s-4hana-deployment-on-hyperscalers/

When using the Transition to SAP S/4HANA SAP Activate roadmap, be sure to select the approach on the content screen.  See below.

 

 

I hope you found this blog informative.

Amin Hoque
Enterprise Architect at SAP Services UK

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      Author's profile photo David Milburn
      David Milburn

      Amin, I like the article but one thing concerns me presently in the area of Data Privacy.

      1809 Cloud Edition has 1J7 Best Practice describing the implementation of ILM-full or partial to support data privacy such as GDPR.

      However, 1809 Single Tenant Edition does not. Is this a documentation error or do we have an issue with full support for Data Privacy on Single Tenant?

       

      J1809

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello David

      See my comment below

      Amin Hoque.

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello David

      This is really out of my area of expertise, so I cannot provide a 100% answer.

      However, single tenant edition is like any other on-premise solution and can be managed to meet data privacy legislation in the same way as other SAP deployments.

      Cloud S/4HANA is the special case where a customer has less control and flexibility that in the other deployments. That is why Best Practice scope item 1J7 is provided to show how data privacy is met.

      Kind regards

      Amin Hoque

      Author's profile photo Steven Wong
      Steven Wong

      Thank you Amin for this excellent overview.

      I am slightly confused between Option 2 - S/4 HANA Cloud - Single Tenant and Option 4 - S/4 HANA On-Prem particularly if I am going to deploy it on public cloud infrastructure like AWS/Azure.

      Am I right to say that both are pretty much the same, but Option 2 is managed by SAP whilst Option 4 allows me to choose who to manage it (be it my own IT or outsource to a 3rd party AMS vendor)?

       

      Thank you

       

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Steven

      That is partially correct.

      Only SAP offers S/4HANA Cloud Single Tenant.  This is Software As a Service. The SAP Best Practices are always used.  SAP hosts and looks after things like the operating system, SAP software and upgrades.

      Partners like Azure, AWS and Google offer IAAS (Infrastructure As A Service). You might not use SAP Best Practices. They look after networking, storage, servers and virtualization.  The customer looks after the operating system up including upgrades.

      Cheers

      Amin

      Author's profile photo Thomas Hofmann
      Thomas Hofmann

      Hello Armin,

      First of all thank you for your very concise and informative overview.

      I can tell you from my discussions with customers as a former SAP colleague there is still a lot of confusion and misleading information out in the market.

      In your response to Steven Wong's comment last November you mentioned that S/4HANA Single Tenant (now Extended Edition) is only offered by SAP. However, in your current version you mention that also hyperscalers can manage this option. Am I missing something here or has this changed with the renaming?

      Thank you for helping to clarify this.

      Best regards,
      Thomas

       

      Author's profile photo Simran Shah
      Simran Shah

      Hello Amin,

      Thank you for this really helpful article. I have a couple of questions.

      Can we perform a landscape transformation for SAP S/4 HANA Cloud Single Tenant Edition? And further, where will this be hosted (public cloud providers/SAP Cloud Platform)?

      For a transformation from SAP ECC 6.0 in Cloud to SAP S/4 HANA, what deployment model would be most suitable and feasible?

      Thank you!

       

       

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Simran

       

      "Landscape Transformation" is now called "Selective Data Transition".

      You can move to SAP S/4HANA Cloud Single Tenant Edition with Selective Data Transition or a New Implementation.  You cannot do a system conversion.

      SAP S/4HANA Cloud Single Tenant Edition can be hosted by SAP or Hyperscalers.

      If you want to go to S/4HANA Cloud (previously called Multi Tenant Edition) the only option is a New Implementation.

      Kind regards

      Amin Hoque

      Author's profile photo Manju Doddahalli Vishakantaiah
      Manju Doddahalli Vishakantaiah
      • Single Tenant Edition (STE) is hosted by SAP, does it means that we are hosting in HEC?
      • Is there any difference between Hosted by SAP and Hosted by HEC?
      Author's profile photo Michael Piesche
      Michael Piesche
      Manju Doddahalli Vishakantaiah, EX and HEC are not the same. One is the Cloud version, the other is the On-Premise version. That is a huge difference. 
      Author's profile photo Manju Doddahalli Vishakantaiah
      Manju Doddahalli Vishakantaiah

      In this Webinar, they said EX is hosted by HEC. https://gateway.on24.com/wcc/gateway/elitesapenterprisesupport/1904844/  My doubt is

      • What's the difference between HEC and Private Cloud?
      • Where we can deploy EX? Is it just by HEC?
      • In about comment Amin Hoque said, EX can be hosted by SAP? Does it mean we are hosted by HEC?
      Author's profile photo Michael Piesche
      Michael Piesche
      • SAP HEC (HANA Enterprise Cloud) is a managed, private cloud hosting service for SAP HANA. And in the context of the given deployment options it can be used to host the S/4 HANA on-premise version. HEC is a infrastructure-as-a-service.
      • Private Cloud means, that you dont share the cloud environment that is hosted by someone else and somewhere else, (someone other than you and somewhere else than your infrastructure)
      • If you opt for HEC, the infrastructure as a service, which is managed by SAP, you can either have the S/4 HANA on premise version running on it or the S/4 HANA Cloud Extended Version (EX). Thats how I understand it.
      Author's profile photo Manju Doddahalli Vishakantaiah
      Manju Doddahalli Vishakantaiah

      Thank you. i got it now

      Author's profile photo Sreekanth Ravindranath
      Sreekanth Ravindranath

      Amin

      For the S4 HANA cloud STE,do we have the SAP GUI available for custom code development and modifications?

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      SAP GUI is currently available in the S/4HANA Cloud extended edition (previously called STE).  There are long term plans to limit access to SE80 and move to purely browser based access.

      Author's profile photo Nicolas Frerejean
      Nicolas Frerejean

      Hello Amin,

      Can local (in-country) cloud providers provide the infrastructure services for options #2 and #4? If so, what are the requirements to be certified and provide these services?

      Regards

       

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Nicolas

      Currently the cloud providers are Microsoft Azure, Google Cloud, AWS or Alibaba Cloud.

      Other potential partners should contact SAP.  See https://www.sap.com/uk/partner/become.html

      Regards

      Amin Hoque.

      Author's profile photo Akhilesh Kapai
      Akhilesh Kapai

      Hi Amin

      Really nice and helpful article. I have a couple of queries:

      1. Is it possible to have SAP S/4HANA Cloud extended edition (EX) on infrastructure provided by cloud hyperscalers like AWS, AZURE? In your article you have written it is possible. However as far as I have read, this is a SAAS provided only by SAP? Please confirm.

      2. Is it possible to have SAP S/4HANA Private Cloud managed by SAP (HEC) infrastructure provided by other hyperscalers like AWS, AZURE?

       

      Thanks

      Akhilesh

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Akhilesh

      1. Yes, SAP S/4HANA Cloud extended edition is available with infrastructure provided by MS Azure or AWS.  It remains a SAAS offering with SAP.  SAP partner with the hyperscaler.  See standard slide below.
      2. No, the private cloud is only available with SAP (HEC) infrastructure.

       

      Kind regards

      Amin Hoque.

       

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      This has now changed with the launch of S/4HANA Cloud private edition in 2021.

      Author's profile photo Kamal Kumar
      Kamal Kumar

      Thanks Amin for nice and informative blog.

      I have few queries and will be great if you can help -

      1. Do we get SAP Data Services as free with STE.

      2. Is there any difference in Migration cockpit approach in different deployed solutions like on premise or STE.

      3. How can I check which version or S4 hana deployment we are using.

      Regards,

      Kamal

       

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hi Kamal

      With Essential Edition, you use the SAP Data Migration Cockpit on its own. See this presentation in the SAP Learning Hub:

      https://jam2.sapjam.com/groups/5gwxDPWQPRtOvMO8Xnd32Q/documents/rYDXIPTtHeckofh5x51Erq/slide_viewer

      With the other deployment approaches, you can also choose to use SAP Data Services for Extract Transform Load (ETL) e.g. Analysis, Extract, Clean, Validate, Load and Reconcile.

      See the new openSAP course: https://open.sap.com/courses/s4h16

      I do not know whether Data Services is included in extended edition. Contact your IT team to find out what deployment you are using.

      Kind regards

      Amin Hoque.

      Author's profile photo Flavio Molina
      Flavio Molina

      Amin is coorect the afirmation that deployment option 3 (SAP S/4HANA Private Cloud managed by SAP (HEC)) has same functionalities that deployment option 4 (SAP S/4HANA On-Premise).

      BR

      Molina

      Author's profile photo John Pawski
      John Pawski

      Amin,  The S/4 MTE(ES) edition is only hosted and managed by SAP and there is not much in the area of customization, correct?

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello John

      Yes, S/4 Essential edition is only hosted by SAP.

      There is configuration through SSCUIs in Essential Edition but no access to the full IMG which has 1000s of configuration activities. Release 2002 has 1633 SSCUIs. For configuration approach see this page of the roadmap viewer. https://go.support.sap.com/roadmapviewer/#/group//roadmap/IMPS4HANACLDENMGMT/node/001999B7BD851ED68D97F853D2DC42CE:

      See the PDF called Using Configure Your Solution and SSCUIs.pdf (SAP Customer)

      Cheers

      Amin

      Author's profile photo Ralf Caelen
      Ralf Caelen

      Dear Amin,

      Thank you for this great overview of the different options.

      Is there also a functional difference between the two cloud editions?

      1. SAP S/4HANA Cloud essentials edition (ES): previously called Multi-Tenant Edition.
      2. SAP S/4HANA Cloud extended edition (EX): previously called Single-Tenant Edition.
      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Caelen

      Yes.  Currently, Extended Edition offers nearly all of the scope of regular SAP S/4HANA on-premise. Nearly all the configuration is available.

      Essentials Edition offers a reduced set of the on-premise functionality, transactions, industries, countries and languages.  It is a simplified version of ERP.  The configuration is also reduced meaning that there is less flexibility than in on-premise.

      Cheers

      Amin

       

      Author's profile photo Jan Willem Hofstee
      Jan Willem Hofstee

      Dear Amin,

      Thank you for this wonderful overview of the different options.

      Is there by any chance also an outline of the functionalities the different options offers, or at least where they deviate from each other? I understand that the Essentials Edition offers a reduced set compared to the on-prem version, but I would like to understand what functionality is currently not supported by S/4HANA Cloud (essentials edition) compared to e.g. the on-prem version.

      Many thanks for your feedback.

       

      Cheers, Jan Willem

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Jan Willem

      SAP S/4HANA Cloud (previously Essentials Edition) is the only option with less solution functionality.

      For detail, I would suggest you compare the Feature Scope Descriptions of S/4HANA Cloud with S/4HANA.  These are in the help.sap.com.  This also includes country availability.  Contents page give a summary.

      https://help.sap.com/doc/7c9e0bbbd1664c2581b2038a1c7ae4b3/2105.500/en-US/FSD_CE2105.pdf

      https://help.sap.com/doc/e2048712f0ab45e791e6d15ba5e20c68/2020/en-US/FSD_OP2020_latest.pdf

      Kind regards

      Amin Hoque

      Author's profile photo Mustafa Balsara
      Mustafa Balsara

      Hi Amin,

      This is insightful and brings clarity.

      Also, does SAP MTE ( now ES) support multi-country instances e.g 1instance for US business & other for APAC/China?

      How mature is the SAP MTE product for China in terms of local compliance (Data regulations, tax & Payment gateway integrations)?

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Mustafa

      Yes. SAP ES can have many countries all running in one instance. The solution for China draws on the same codeline (product) as the on-premise solution.  There are many features for country localisations. It would be best for you to look at the scope items for China in BPX at this link: https://rapid.sap.com/bp/#/BP_CLD_ENTPR/S4CLD/2005/CN/20

      I do not know whether there are specific on-premise features for China that are not in S/4HANA Cloud Essentials Edition.

      Regards

      Amin Hoque

      Author's profile photo FEDERICO PAGLIARO
      FEDERICO PAGLIARO

      Thanks Amin for this very interesting overview.

      Regarding S/4 HANA cloud STE (or EX), assuming to use the ABAP restricted functionality and all new syntax rules.

      It is possible to create ABAP custom development into the system or we need to assume that only side-by-side and extension-in-app are possible? Shortly, can I create a custom report with, for example, user parameters and an ALV output and run this from SAPGUI?

      Thanks in advance and regards

      Federico

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Federico

      Always refer to this SAP note: https://launchpad.support.sap.com/#/notes/2920697.  It is called "Extensibility Guide for SAP S/4HANA Cloud, extended edition".  Things can change from time to time.

      I found this in the SAP Activate roadmap: https://go.support.sap.com/roadmapviewer/#/group//roadmap/5368adff269741c9/node/901B0E6D3F501ED8A2DE7458B1932446:

      Cheers

      Amin

      Author's profile photo Mustafa Balsara
      Mustafa Balsara

      Very nicely explained and a timely article!

      Author's profile photo Daniel Ussarz
      Daniel Ussarz

      Hello Amin,

      With reference to option 2., what do you mean by "There is a minimum number of users." Does it mean that the EX edition intended for small/midsize companies. Cou you pls comment on this, why, how many users, limitations etc.

      Thanks, Daniel

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hi Daniel

      This means Essentials Edition is not available to small organizations.  It is for mid size and large only.  The minimum number of users changes from time to time.

      Regards

      Amin

      Author's profile photo ankit Soni
      ankit Soni

      Hi Amin,

       

      Thanks for explaining the deployment options.

      Can you please help in some of below clarifications on STE?

      Does S/4 cloud STE(extended addition) support proxy for integration? Can we connect to SAP PI/PO using proxy based integration as STE is more similar to on-premise S/4 or we have to leverage API’s, SOA services only?

      Do we have to use DRF replication and output management through fiori for master data distributions through IDOCs or we can create partner profile through WE20 and traditional RFC destinations/ports to push data to middleware systems?

      Is restriction mentioned this note on IDOCs usage – https://launchpad.support.sap.com/#/notes/2653671 for S/4 cloud is applicable to STE as well ? If Yes, What is recommended approach for master data distribution – material, customers, etc. on STE based on change pointers?

       

      Thanks,

      Ankit

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Ankit

      I am sorry but your question goes beyond my knowledge of Extended Edition features. I suggest you try posting a questions into the community described here:

      https://blogs.sap.com/2020/05/20/welcome-to-the-sap-s-4hana-cloud-extended-edition-customer-community/

      Cheers

      Amin

      Author's profile photo kiran k maddineni
      kiran k maddineni

      Amin, thank you for the blog. It provided great information. Couple of aspects I am not clear about is related Infrastructure and Extensibility.

      S/4HANA Cloud Private Edition : You blog says ' Infrastructure: dedicated landscape on cloud Infrastructure operated by SAP and running at a Hyperscaler e.g. Microsoft Azure, AWS, Google Cloud). But your reply to one of the questions says 'No, the private cloud is only available with SAP (HEC) infrastructure'. So, I am not a bit confused here. Can S/4HANA Cloud Private Edition be hosted only on SAP HEC or can be hosted on both HEC as well as Hyperscalers?

      Extensibility in case of S/4HANA Cloud Essentials Edition: I read in another blog that in-app extensibility can be done without impacting other tenants. Is it correct?

      Thank you.

      Regards,

      Kiran

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello

      The new SAP S/4HANA Cloud private edition can be hosted by a Hyperscaler.  Private Edition is new in 2021.  The previous question was before it launched in 2020.

      Yes...  in-app extensibility can be done in S/4HANA Cloud (essential edition) without impacting any other tenants.

      Amin

      Author's profile photo kiran k maddineni
      kiran k maddineni

      Thanks a lot, Amin. So, can I conclude as follows:

       

      Thank you.

      Regards,

      Kiran Maddineni

      Author's profile photo Wolfgang Röckelein
      Wolfgang Röckelein

      Thank you Amin Hoque for keeping this blog up-to-date!

      As announced on TechEd there are plans to offer an "embedded steampunk" in some of the S/4HANA Cloud Variants. Could you add information on where this is to be expected?

       

      Regards,

      Wolfgang

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Wolfgang

      This is planned for SAP S/4HANA Cloud (public version previously called Essentials).  There is no firm release date.  Initially, it would be for new customers only.

      Amin Hoque

      Author's profile photo Bence Robert Posa
      Bence Robert Posa

      Dear Amin,

      I'd like to set the same settings in on-premise, what I could do in the 'Manage my solutions' application in case of cloud, e.g. function or type for "Teams and Responsibilities" application. How could I do in on-premise system? Could you help me, what is the same point in SPRO?

      Thank you,

      Bence

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello

      Note: some SSCUIs do not have an equivalent IMG activity in SPRO.

      Go to this SAP Activate page:

      https://go.support.sap.com/roadmapviewer/#/group//roadmap/IMPS4HANACLDENMGMT/node/001999B7BD851ED68D97F853D2DC42CE:

      Open the Excel:

      Expert Configuration and SSCUI Reference.xlsm (SAP Customer)

      Find your SSCUI.  The column Activity ID has the technical name of the IMG activity.   You can try searching on this in SPRO.  If that does not work:

      To find the transaction code for the IMG activity use SE16 on table CUS_IMGACH with the Activity ID.

      Kind regards

      Amin

      Cheers

      Amin

       

      Author's profile photo Mukul Sharma
      Mukul Sharma

      Hi Experts,

      I am seeing SAP ERP PCE also (in HEC Agreement Site). Looks like starting this year ERP PCE is also possible. If I am not wrong this is old BS (ECC) as/in PCE offering? Can somebody comment on this? I still don't get it why SAP has come up with this offering?

      Suggest/Validate below deployment table as well:

       

      S4%20Deployments

      S4 Deployments

      Author's profile photo Adil Zafar
      Adil Zafar

      Hi Mukul

      SAP ERP on RISE with SAP is offered as an interim step to PCE which is based on S/4HANA. SAP ERP on HANA along with all SAP products being moved to RISE will need to be on ASE or HANA DB.

      Thanks

      Adil

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello

      SAP S/4HANA Cloud Private Edition (previously referred to as PCE) is new in 2021. It is the S/4 on-premise software solution stack offered in a private cloud (managed by hyperscalers).  Key point is that existing ERP customers can move to it using a System Conversion. This was no possible in previous cloud editions. It is available under a RISE subscription contract.

      Kind regards

      Amin Hoque.

      Author's profile photo Julia Detmering
      Julia Detmering

      Hello Amin,

      You mention that with S/4HANA Cloud EX only greenfield is possible. Other sources state that also System Conversion and Selective Data Transition is possible with EX.
      I would like to know if an existing S/4HANA system can be migrated to S/4HANA Cloud EX?

      Thanks and kind regards

      Julia

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Julia

      My understanding is that SAP S/4HANA Cloud private edition must be used to do System Conversion and Selective Data Transition.  This is option 3 in the blog.  It is similar to the old Extended Edition (option 2) but SAP does not own subsequent upgrades. This would be the normal approach.

      Kind regards

      Amin Hoque.

      Author's profile photo Marta Canton Franco
      Marta Canton Franco

      Hello Amin,

      Until now, S/4HANA Cloud extended edition, has mandatory upgrades every 2 years as of April.

      S/4HANA Cloud Private Edition, has mandatory upgrades every 5 years.

      Is it the same 5 years period,  for S/4HANA Cloud extended edition now?

      And in which contractual document is it specified?

      Thanks

      Kind regards

      Marta

       

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Marta

      I checked FAQs and updated the blog.  S/4HANA Cloud extended edition must be upgraded at least once every 2 years. S/4HANA Cloud Private Edition must stay in mainstream maintenance which is an upgrade within 5 years.

      For questions on where this documented in a contract, please contact your SAP Account Executive.

      Kind regards

      Amin Hoque.

      Author's profile photo Kane Xin
      Kane Xin

      Hi Amin:

      Thank you for your helpful info, may I ask a question:

      How to proceed the system conversion from ECC 6 to SAP S/4HANA Cloud private edition ?

      And any difference between conversion to OP, any guide book for it, thanks.

       

      Best Regards

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Kane

      The best place to look is the SAP Activate roadmap that is specific to SAP S/4HANA Cloud Private Edition.

      https://go.support.sap.com/roadmapviewer/#/group/658F507A-D6F5-4B78-9EE1-0300C5F1E40F/roadmapContentPage/a11ec6d657054bf9

      Roland Hamm's blog is a good place to look:

      https://blogs.sap.com/2016/11/02/sap-s4hana-system-conversion-at-a-glance/

      You may find more information here:

      https://launchpad.support.sap.com/#/notes/2924833

       

      Kind regards

      Amin Hoque.

      Author's profile photo WMJ van Sluisveld
      WMJ van Sluisveld

      Thank you for creating this highly useful summary and keeping it up-to-date. I don't understand why SAP does not have this as a handy table on their S/4HANA product page. When I buy consumer electronics you get these handy tables comparing everything side by side. I suppose there are commercial reasons for wanting to keep it 'cloudy' (pun intended) and speak to their potential buyers first.

      I would like to point out a minor update I noticed that has not yet been updated here:

      "As of March 2021, SAP HANA Enterprise Cloud, customer edition, is now known as
      SAP S/4HANA Cloud, private edition, customer data center option.
      "

      Source: SAP HANA Enterprise Cloud, Customer Edition, Launched | SAP News

      Kinds regards, WJ

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello WJ

      Thank you for the feedback. I will forward this onto our Solution Management team.

      Also thank you for the minor update!  I have updated the name as you suggested.

      Kind regards

      Amin Hoque.

      Author's profile photo Renan Correa
      Renan Correa

      Thanks for this post, for an implementation consultant it's pretty difficult to follow all the product re-namings that happen every year.

      Basically I see 2 Products (S/4HANA cloud and S/4HANA on-Prem) with three options to deploy (Public, private and on-prem), but with several ramifications between them with differences in tenants and licensing that change the name of what would be the same core product.

      I hope in the near future SAP unifies "S/4HANA Cloud Cloud" and "Cloud extended" in one single thing. I do not know pricing (I just know they are all different materials in price list), but from a functionalities perspective there is not much advantage of Cloud extended over public cloud ( and no advantage over private/on-prem ), if the customers really need more flexibility t the Private option would allow much more than cloud extended.

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Renan

      There are two different solutions from a functionality and scope perspective:

      1) SAP S/4HANA Cloud (public) which is a restricted version of the full S/4HANA version

      2) On-premise and all the others options including Cloud Private Edition and Cloud Extended edition that offer the full unrestricted functionality.

      Each cloud deployment option provides a different scope of services from SAP.  If you want to do a system conversion from an existing SAP ERP system you must choose one of the on-premise deployment options or SAP S/4HANA Cloud Private Edition.

      Kind regards

      Amin Hoque.

      Author's profile photo Renan Correa
      Renan Correa

      Hi Amin,

      thanks for the additional comments. It clarified a bit further the naming, I now get what S/4HANA  cloud extended is.

      In general industry terms we could say that S/4HANA cloud is a public cloud solution and all the other options are Private cloud options ( with several variations in licensinsing like SaaS or perpetual license, extensibility options and deployment/implementation models ).

      That's a bit easier to sell and explain from my perspective.

      Regards,

      Renan Correa

      Author's profile photo Shobhit Taggar
      Shobhit Taggar

      Amin Hoque : Thanks for sharing this blog. I am few question.

      1. We already have S4HC-Essential Subscription and used by business. Now business is asking for more flexibility in terms of functionality. What is the possibility to migrate from S4HC- Essential to S/4 Private cloud edition?
      2.  If there is no direct migration path, will sap provide the data/configurations in form of Files & transports to be restored in new environment.
      3. For the greenfield implementation of S/4 Private we want to activate the same scope items that we have in S4HC-Essential template. Will the Explore phase and Fit to standard will be skipped?
      4. What are the migrations tools available or Can be used (automatically or manual) for moving our data from S4HC-Essential to S/4 Private.
      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Shobhit

      You should contact your SAP Account Executive (AE) to change your subscription from Essentials Edition to S/4HANA Cloud Private Edition.  They will also get the latest information for you.  There is no generic answer and you must contact SAP to understand the best options for you.

      1. In June 2021, there were no tools to move to Private Edition and no direct migration path.  You should check with your AE in case anything has changed.
      2. In June 2021, there was no way to export and then import the configuration. You can “activate” a baseline of configuration scope items in Private Cloud (called the Enterprise Management Layer).  
      3. There will be some Explore phase.  You should assess whether to a) re-use existing design or b) just start again e.g. to take advantage of delta features in Private Cloud
      4. Master and Transaction data can be moved starting with a download of data from SAP S/4HANA Cloud using using Customer Data Return .  Business data can be uploaded to the S/4HANA Cloud, private edition using
        SAP S/4HANA migration cockpit.

      I hope this helps

      Amin Hoque

      Author's profile photo Martijn van de Ven
      Martijn van de Ven

      Hello Amin,

      Thank you for the blog and for keeping it up to date. With all these name changes by SAP it can be hard to keep up. This blog has been helpful to me multiple times already.

      Kind regards,

      Martijn van de Ven

      Author's profile photo Alessandro Scattola
      Alessandro Scattola

      Hy Amin,
      very interesting article.

      Could you tell me if there is a difference in software version between the CLOUD solutions (solutions 1., 2. and 3.) and the ON PREMISE solutions (solutions 4. and 5.)?

      The solution "3. SAP S / 4HANA Cloud private edition" what software version does it provide?

      Thanks,
      Alessandro

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello Alessandro

      SAP operate a cloud first strategy. This means new software features (and any matching configuration) are developed for the regular releases of SAP S/4HANA Cloud.  This is option 1 = Public Cloud.  There are multiple software releases per year e.g. release 2111.

      All the other options (2 to 5) operate on the same software "stack" with the same release strategy. For this stack, most software updates come in one major software release per year e.g. release 2021. Most (but not all) changes in SAP S/4HANA Cloud make it to this "stack".

      Option 1 has a smaller scope available than the other options. There is a single S/4HANA code line but with two different sets of active scope.

      Hope this helps

      Amin Hoque.

      Author's profile photo John Kenny
      John Kenny

      Really clear article, Amin & thank you for updating this as time has gone by.

      Do we know if any of the S/4 HANA Compatibility Pack Solutions can be deployed on either Cloud Extended Edition or Cloud Private Edition?

      I have a client who may need to have CP-SAP Remote Logistics Management compatibility on a target S/4 architecture in order to accommodate their existing Business Suite IS-OIL & Remote Logistics Management functions. I'm wondering if that restricts their deployment options to only the following:

      4. SAP S/4HANA On-Premise managed by SAP (HEC)

      5. SAP S/4HANA On-Premise: On-Premise or managed by cloud provider Hyperscalers

      Regards, John

       

       

      Author's profile photo Amin Hoque
      Amin Hoque
      Blog Post Author

      Hello John

      Not a simple answer.  Some Compatibility Packs are available in SAP S/4HANA Cloud Private Edition if the right license is in place but other Compatibility Packs are not.  You will need to contact an SAP cloud architect through your Account Executive.  There does not seem to be any public information on this is SAP note: 2269324 which is the place to go for the latest Compatibility Pack information.

      Kind regards

      Amin Hoque.

      Author's profile photo John Kenny
      John Kenny

      Hi Amin,

      Thank you for the quick reply on this. We're keen to understand if we have a potential Cloud deployment route vs what feels like a less strategic S/4 On-Prem implementation for this specific customer, so I will do as you say and engage our Account Executive.

      Much appreciated and keep up the excellent blogs content,

      Regards,

      John