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Author's profile photo Aviad Rivlin

SAP Fiori Cloud for S/4HANA – It’s Prime Time

We are happy to announce a major release of SAP Fiori Cloud for S/4HANA. With over 6,000 apps, SAP Fiori Cloud will offer content covering business roles across 13 lines of business and 30+ industries. This marks a major milestone to ease the adoption of SAP Fiori for SAP S/4HANA via Cloud services.

This means if you are running SAP S/4HANA or SAP Business Suite on premises, you can keep your core business systems on premises, while easily and seamlessly accessing the UI layer from the Cloud. That makes it incredibly easy to innovate quickly – and release any of the apps whenever you want – without impacting your on-premises release cycles.

Let me summarize the news for your and explain with this diagram:

  • Your SAP S/4HANA or SAP Business Suite back-end system stays on premises. You do not move any core business systems to the cloud – only the UI layer is served from the Cloud
  • You don’t need to upgrade or patch your Fiori / Portal landscape (Dev, TEST, PROD,…) any more. SAP runs the Fiori apps and launchpad in SAP Cloud Platform for you.
  • New functionality is available bi-weekly
  • You can leverage any of the 6,000+ SAP Fiori apps or develop your own custom apps
  • Leverage the best architecture for your company to ensure best security and performance (External Access Point or Internal Access Point)
  • SAP provides a preview environment, enabling you to preview and test new functionalities in advance

For a more technical look, read the SAP Fiori Cloud Blueprint.

Enable a modern, intuitive user experience for SAP business processes, SAP S/4HANA & SAP Business Suite, with minimized cost and effort

  • List of SAP S/4HANA apps in the cloud (planned to be updated by end of Q2/2019 with the new major release)
  • List of SAP Business Suite apps in the cloud
 

 

Provide access to SAP business processes from anywhere at anytime via a secured connectivity between on-premises to cloud

Combine SAP and non-SAP business processes with consistent UX

 

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Simplify your on-premises landscape with efficient cloud services, enabling fast innovation cycles.

 

So, what are the big news here?

With this new release of SAP Fiori Cloud, we are delivering a major content release for SAP S/4HANA (on premise) 1709. This will include content across lines of business and roles, allowing customers to leverage SAP Fiori Cloud across their S/4HANA implementation

If I am already running SAP Fiori Cloud, can I leverage this new functionality?

Yes. All existing SAP Fiori Cloud customers can leverage this new release and implement SAP Fiori for their SAP S/4HANA systems.

On which data center is SAP Fiori Cloud available?

SAP Fiori Cloud is available on all SAP Cloud Platform (NEO) data centers. To benefit from the best performance, it is recommended to run your Fiori Cloud instance in the closest data center to your end users. A list of SAP data centers can be found here.

Where can I read and get more details about SAP Fiori Cloud? 

The best resources to read about SAP Fiori Cloud are: learning journey, blueprint, documentation.

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      Author's profile photo Murali Shanmugham
      Murali Shanmugham

      Great to see Fiori Cloud providing full UX coverage for S4HANA.

       

      Author's profile photo Mike Doyle
      Mike Doyle

      Thanks for sharing this exciting news, Aviad Rivlin.  I think the disparity between the number of apps supported for on-prem launchpads and Cloud Platform was discouraging some customers from making the move. Out of the '6000' apps, how many are for S/4HANA 1709?  Are all the new apps for S/4?

       

      Author's profile photo Murali Shanmugham
      Murali Shanmugham

      Hi Mike,

      As of today, there are 1255 apps listed in the Fiori Reference library for S4HANA 1709 release.Its important to note that its a combination of SAPUI5 & Classical apps

      Author's profile photo Murali Shanmugham
      Murali Shanmugham

      The number of supported apps has gone up to 8785 in the reference library.

       

      Author's profile photo Matt Harding
      Matt Harding

      Hi Aviad,

      This sounds like great news but just to clarify:

      • I was previously advised (very recently) that you cannot use Fiori Cloud for S4 due to missing S4 functionality (such as Fiori apps but who knows what else); but with this announcement, are you are advising that, in fact, all Fiori apps are available (Murali hints a little on how this works in his post)?
      • Is it now the recommended approach for new S4 customers on the latest release?
      • Are the standard S4 Personas and Web Dynpro applications that still exist in standard S4 available in the relevant SAP catalogs to leverage in your own customer catalogs?
      • Is the OData Provisioning also fully supported now from SCP for all S4 scenarios?

      On a different note; I would love to see more posts on how the various versioning is handled in more detail (e.g. Handling of front end Fiori fixes that have a dependent back-end note to be applied) but for now, I'm loving it if we can finally have a frequently updated Fiori Launchpad/UI5 libraries in the S4 world.

      Cheers,

      Matt

      ps. Time to ensure our automated Test scripts for custom Fiori apps are up to scratch!

      Author's profile photo Murali Shanmugham
      Murali Shanmugham

      Hi Matt,

      I would like to try and respond to your questions. Aviad can correct me if I am wrong 🙂

      1. Not sure why someone advised not to use Fiori Cloud with S4HANA. It could be due to the fact that not all standard Fiori Apps were available on Fiori Cloud to support the full scope of S4HANA. Fiori Cloud had initially apps only available to cover finance scope in S4HANA. Obviously, customers could still create custom apps on Fiori Cloud and integrate them with S4HANA and even mobilize them using SCP.
      2. This would certainly be something I would recommend for new S4HANA customers as it provides a clear separation of UX layer from the core system. Customers have a choice to deploy Fiori apps on-premise S4HANA (may be they are not yet cloud ready) or on SAP Cloud Platform depending on their need and the pace in which they want to provide apps for their end users.
      3. Standard WebDynpro & Personas skins which are available in S4HANA can be consumed in Fiori Cloud. If you look at S4HANA contents, there are close to 200 catalogs which would be provided in Fiori Cloud and each Catalog would consist of SAPUI5 and Classic apps.
      4. OData Provisioning is still not recommended for use with S4HANA 🙁
      5. Versioning is an interesting topic. As you know, every fortnight there is a window for SAP to introduce bug fixes or enhancements to existing Fiori apps. These will automatically flow into the customer accounts. Customers can test these enhancements in a Preview Environment 14 days before the release of these changes. If there is going to be a change which requires backend changes (apply notes), SAP would release a new version of the Fiori App. Portal Administrator will be able to see these new Fiori Apps and decide when to turn them on after the necessary backend changes have been made. I will try to post a blog on this topic sometime soon.

      Regards,

      Author's profile photo Matt Harding
      Matt Harding

      Thanks for stepping in Murali (I'm sure Aviad is busy getting down to Justin Timberlake right now).

      I'm sure the issue with S4 previously was the fact that the customer was responsible for deploying the Fiori apps and any maintenance of these would require redeployment which is less than ideal. That combined with the fact you don't want to have to set-up all your catalogs manually the first time but use references when defining your FLP UX is probably enough in my books to not recommend Fiori Cloud.

      OData Provisioning is not such a big deal if we simply use S4 without a hub for this so all good (though I suspect their may be some performance improvements if this was a preferred option). Regardless, this is an easy switch when it does become the recommendation.

      Versioning in deed is going to be the most interesting aspect for those on S4/HANA and not S4/HANA Cloud as most customers I've worked at require a lot of manual effort when it comes to any application patching. Will be interesting to see what SAP Best Practices are for Fiori Cloud regression testing for those running S4. Look forward to the post!

      Cheers,

      Matt

      Author's profile photo Giovanni Degani
      Giovanni Degani

      Is there any plans to have the SAP Fiori Cloud available in the cloud foundry environment with 100% feature parity ? ( SAP Cloud Portal is there but with no 100% feature parity )

       

      Author's profile photo Aviad Rivlin
      Aviad Rivlin
      Blog Post Author

      Yes, it is on our roadmap to have SAP Fiori Cloud available on CloudFoundy, though it will take some more time.

      We are also working on closing the gaps in Cloud Portal and making it fully avilable on CF.

       

      Aviad

      Author's profile photo Aviad Rivlin
      Aviad Rivlin
      Blog Post Author

      Blog is updated: we are now GA with Fiori Cloud for S/4HANA 1709 SP2.

       

      Aviad

      Author's profile photo Mel Calucin
      Mel Calucin

      Hi Aviad,

      Thanks for the blog.

      When will S/4HANA 1809 on-premise be supported?

      Also, Fiori Cloud is part of the SCP environment?

      Thanks.

      Regards,

      Mel Calucin

      Author's profile photo Aviad Rivlin
      Aviad Rivlin
      Blog Post Author

      Hi Mel,

      • S/4HANA 1809 content is planned to come in Q1/2019
      • Yes, is runs on SAP Cloud Platfrom (SCP)

       

      Regards,

      Aviad

      Author's profile photo Marco SILVA
      Marco SILVA

      Hello,

      Still no Fiori Cloud version for S/4 1809, right?

      Regards,

      Marco

      Author's profile photo Juan Miguel Burmester
      Juan Miguel Burmester

      Hi Aviad, is still supported Fiori Cloud for S/4HANA 1809 and subsequents releases?  It does not appear at Fiori apps Library:

      Thanks in advance,

       

      Author's profile photo Thomas Hensel
      Thomas Hensel

      Dear Juan Miguel,

      Thanks for your interest in SAP Fiori Cloud for SAP S/4HANA (on premise).

      Please note that SAP offers only selected Fiori applications and content packages on SAP Cloud Platform. You can find an overview of available apps for SAP S/4HANA 1610 & 1709 in SAP Fiori App Library.

      At this point in time SAP does not plan to replicate and release additional standard SAP Fiori (on premise) apps and business content on SAP Cloud Platform.

      Background: SAP Fiori is an integral part of the SAP S/4HANA (on premise) product. The general recommendation for SAP S/4HANA 1809 systems is an embedded SAP Front-end server deployment. SAP significantly enhanced the tools for rapid activation and configuration, to offer the modern SAP Fiori user experience “out of the box” and simplify the overall lifecycle management.

      Further information

      Please feel free to get back to me, in case you have additional questions.

      Best regards
      Thomas Hensel

      Author's profile photo Aleksandr karpov
      Aleksandr karpov

      HI, Thomas.

      Today for s/4hana 1909 on-premise SAP Fiori Cloud is obsolete ? Or i don't understand your answer

      Author's profile photo Thomas Hensel
      Thomas Hensel

      Hello Aleksandr,

      SAP Fiori Cloud indeed only offers selected Fiori apps and business content for SAP Business Suite and SAP S/4HANA 1610 / 1709.

      As of SAP S/4HANA 1809, SAP Cloud Platform is no longer a deployment option for the Fiori Frontent and the recommendation is to to run the Fiori Frontend "embedded" in the backend.

      Going forward, we are aiming at establishing a central launchpad on SAP Cloud Platform, which allows to INTEGRATE and ACCESS such applications from the respective backend. See the latest roadmap about Fiori launchpad on https://www.sap.com/products/roadmaps/finder-all.html?search=user interface

      Hope this helps and clarifies your question.

      Best regards
      Thomas

      Author's profile photo Sreenivasan Jai A J
      Sreenivasan Jai A J

      Hello,

      Can we use Fiori cloud with a S/4 HANA 1909 system as the Backend system.

      Thanks

      Author's profile photo Thomas Hensel
      Thomas Hensel

      Hello,

      the “SAP Fiori Cloud” bundle offers selected services SAP Cloud Platform (NEO) to extend or develop custom SAPUI5 applications, e.g. for SAP Business Suite or SAP S/4HANA.

      Please note that the standard SAP Fiori apps offered SAP Cloud Platform only fit for SAP S/4HANA 1610 / 1709 backend, as the deployment recommendations changed towards “embedded deployment”. You can learn more in the following guides: https://www.sap.com/documents/2018/02/f0148939-f27c-0010-82c7-eda71af511fa.html and https://blogs.sap.com/2020/04/01/sap-fiori-deployment-options-and-sap-fiori-front-end-server-strategy-update-2020/

      Best regards
      Thomas

      Author's profile photo Sreenivasan Jai A J
      Sreenivasan Jai A J

      Hi Hensel,

       

      Thanks for your quick response. While I understand that standard fiori apps aren't available for S4/HANA 1809 or 1909 , Is it possible to use S/4HANA 1909 as the backend system for a similar scenario for custom apps,

      Thanks,

      Jai