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There is an IDES version of S/4HANA available since april 2017. SAP note 2445594 – IDES S/4 HANA 1610 describes the details about the prerequisites.

I installed IDES S/4 HANA 1610 on this platform

  • Intel® Xeon® E5-1650 v3 Hexa-Core
  • 2x 960 SATA SDD RAID1
  • 256GB RAM
  • VMware ESXi 6.0

I ended up with 3 VMs running on this platform

  • Database instance
  • Primary application server
  • IDES S/4HANA frontend-server

Preparations

You have to download the following packages:

  • RDBMS HANA:
    SAP IN-MEMORY (SAP HANA) > HANA PLATFORM EDITION > SAP HANA PLATFORM EDITION > SAP HANA PLATFORM EDITION 2.0
  • HANA Client, SAP Kernel:
    SAP S/4HANA > SAP S/4HANA 1610
  • IDES export, IDES Frontend export, RDBMS ASE:
    SAP S/4HANA > SAP S/4HANA 1610 > IDES VERSION

Copy all archives to 120GB drive installation files to mount into VM and “unzip -x” or “unrar x”. Delete archives after extract, 120GB is not sufficient space.

Installation of Database instance

Step-by-step description:

  1. Create VM with
    1. 208GB RAM
    2. 8 vCPU (1x socket, 8x core)
    3. 70 GB drive OS (Primary partition, EXT4)
    4. 32GB drive SWAP
    5. 200GB drive DB (Primary partition, EXT4)
    6. 120GB drive installation files
  2. Install SLES 12 SP2 as described in
    1. SAP note 1984787 – SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 12: Installation notes
    2. SAP note 2205917 – SAP HANA DB: Recommended OS settings for SLES 12 / SLES for SAP Applications 12
  3. Mount 200GB drive DB to directory /hana
  4. Mount 120GB drive to directory /mnt/sapnet
  5. Follow HANA_and_ABAP_on_One_Server.pdf in SAP note 1953429 – SAP HANA and SAP NetWeaver AS ABAP on one Server to install HANA database

Installation of Primary application server

Step-by-step description:

  1. Create VM with
    1. 16GB RAM
    2. 4 vCPU (1x socket, 4x core)
    3. 70 GB drive OS (Primary partition, EXT4)
    4. 16GB drive SWAP
    5. Reuse 120GB drive installation files
  2. Install SLES 12 SP2 like above
  3. Mount 120GB drive to directory /mnt/sapnet
  4. Install Software Provisioning Manager 1.0
  5. Run SPM with SAP S/4HANA 1610 > SAP S/4HANA 1610 Server > SAP HANA Database > SAP Systems > Application Server ABAP > Standard System
    1. (o) Typical
    2. Use IDES Export

Installation of IDES S/4HANA frontend-server

Step-by-step description:

  1. Create VM with
    1. 16GB RAM
    2. 4 vCPU (1x socket, 4x core)
    3. 70 GB drive OS (Primary partition, EXT4)
    4. 16GB drive SWAP
    5. 120GB drive DB (Primary partition, EXT4)
    6. Reuse 120GB drive installation files
  2. Install SLES 12 SP2 like above
  3. Mount 200GB drive DB to directory /sybase
  4. Mount 120GB drive to directory /mnt/sapnet
  5. Install Software Provisioning Manager 1.0
  6. Run SPM with SAP S/4HANA 1610 > AS ABAP for SAP S/4HANA Frontend > SAP ASE > SAP Systems > Application Server ABAP > Standard system
    1. (o) Typical
    2. Use IDES Frontend Export

After starting IDES S/4HANA frontend-server the system is hell slow, needs dozen of minutes to compile on SSD. I had to wait about hour after logon the first time. If you open top in shell, you will see the top process DATASERVER with 100 percent CPU.

Go directly after 1st logon to menu System > Services > Jobs > Job Overview and kill jobs

  •  /UIF/LREP_LOAD_CONSISTENCY_CHECK
  •  SAP_CCMS_MONI_BATCH_STARTUP_DP

Maybe someone can mention SAP note 2411647 – /UI5/APP_INDEX_CALCULATE and /UIF/LREP_LOAD_CONSISTENCY_CHECK jobs failing – BS on ASE in SAP note 2445594 under 10. Last minute information

Follow SAP Note 2445594 and set parameter rsdb/max_blocking_factor = 5 in RZ11

Lessons learned

  • Software Provisioning Manager does not install SAP HANA database
  • I could not foul IDES Frontend Export with MaxDB, setup hangs after 5 failed imports, even database is calculated to 140GB instead of ~80GB SAP ASE

Todos

  • done. Run SGEN in IDES S/4HANA frontend-server to find out final database size
  • Check configuration in IDES S/4HANA frontend-server to backend Primary application server
  • Install JAVA instance
  • Make backups

Updates

  • [2017-MAY-15] After the first weekend job /UIF/LREP_LOAD_CONSISTENCY_CHECK finished its first run with long runtime, 6-9 hours on SSD with 100% CPU for DATASERVER and blocks any other background operation from other standard jobs during runtime and slows down the whole system. But now, it looks ok.
  • [2017-MAY-15] Directory /hana/data after SGEN: 136GB
  • [2017-MAY-15] Directory /sybase after SGEN: 86GB
  • [2017-MAY-31] Start of Fiori Launchpdad on Front-end server ends with
    500 SAP Internal Server Error
    ERROR: Secure Storage: Entry cannot be decrypted (termination:  ERROR_MESSAGE_STATE)
    Follow SAP note 1532825 – Deleting SECSTORE entries during system export/system copy
    and follow.
  • [2017-JUN-08] Start of Fiori Launchpad on Front-end server ends with
    500 SAP Internal Server Error
    ERROR: No more memory available for 5536 bytes in the shared object memory. (termination: RABAX_STATE)
    SDN: No memory available for 9632 bytes in the shared object memory
    SAP note 1322182 – Memory consumption of ABAP Shared Objects
  • [2017-JUN-08] Again long runtime of jobs /UI5/APP_INDEX_CALCULATE and /UIF/LREP_LOAD_CONSISTENCY_CHECK im SM37
    SAP note 2421705 – Prevent execution of job /UIF/LREP_LOAD_CONSISTENCY_CHECK when job /UI5/APP_INDEX_CALCULATE
    SAP Support packages
    Update SAP_GWFND 751 from 0000 to 0002
    Update SAP_UI 751 from 0000 to 0002 Oh!? 1.21 GB+
  • [2017-JUN-09] Set RZ10 parameter abap/shared_objects_size_MB = 400 (default 222 with 16GB RAM)
  • [2017-JUN-09] Set parameter rsdb/max_blocking_factor = 5 in RZ10 (SAP Note 2411647) and restart the system. RZ11 is not a good idea for an automatic running, self-starting job.
  • [2017-JUN-09] Shortdumps in ST22 with
    Runtime Errors OBJECTS_TABLES_NOT_COMPATIBLE
    ABAP Program           /IWBEP/CL_MGW_ABS_DATA========CP

    SAP note 2479680 – Runtime Error OBJECTS_TABLES_NOT_COMPATIBLE
    SAP note 2435153 – Response SubNode empty for deep insert #2
  • [2017-JUN-09] Set RZ10 parameter abap/shared_objects_size_MB = 500 (default 222 with 16GB RAM)
  • [2017-AUG-08] Install HANA license, helpful links
    SAP HANA License Management
    Hardware Key for the HANA Database
    https://blogs.sap.com/2016/06/21/convert-hana-single-db-system-to-support-multitenant-database-containers-mdc-on-aws-part-2/
    2504121 – SAP DBTech JDBC: [7]: feature not supported: License commands are not available on tenant databases
  • [2017-AUG-08]
    cd /usr/sap/HD1/HDB00/exe
    ./hdbsql
    hdbsql=> \c -i 00 -u SYSTEM -d SYSTEMDB
    SELECT * FROM M_LICENSE
    SAP Marketplace
    hdbsql=> \mu ON
    hdbsql=> set system license ‘ (paste license.txt from Marketplace ) ‘ ;
    hdbsql=> 0 rows affected (overall time 27.114 msec; server time 24.962 msec)
  • [2017-AUG-14] Check installed languages and configure available logon languages
    Transaction SMLT > Goto > Other Tools (SE38 RSTLAN_TOOLS)
    Tools for Language Administration and Transport > System Configuration > NLS installation tool
    Remove parameter zcsa/installed_languages from RZ11, because it is dynamic parameter in NW 7.50 and later
  • [2017-AUG-30] Used memory by HANA database after some runtime
    Transaction DB12 > System Information > License
    System measurement:
    Memory Allocation (GB): 149GB
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  1. Bilal Ilyas

    Hello Sir,

    I have installed SAP IDES 1610. Your tutorial was extremely helpful for installation. Please help me in one query. I am trying to activate FM / GM Module EA-PS in SFW5 but I am unable to activate it. Could you guide me on activating FM / GM module EA-PS in SFW5 as I can not activate IS-PS in BF11.

    Could you please provide an email or skype ID for getting in contact with you sir.

    Regards.

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  2. Shakeel Hussain Mohammad

    Hello Sir,

    Thanks a lot for the wonderful blog. we were able to successfully Install  S4HANA IDES &  Frontend Server. However we are facing issues with SMT1 when connecting via Front end server.

    Could you please provide some updates on this configuration. We followed the standards,with respect to Users/Roles & RFC creation. however we are receiving INFORMATION FAILURE when SAP Frontend Gateway to Trusted systems check list is run.

    Appreciate your response. Thanks in advance.

    Regards

    Irfan

     

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  3. Ashraf Sharaf

    Hello,

    Is it possible to install both the DB and the AS server of this on 140gb of rams?

     

    I attempted one installation on the same machine i had a regular S/4 Hana 1610 server on but after 50 hours it stayed stuck on the create DDL Views phase. The installation did not generate any errors neither the logs.

    I tried opening an OSS ticket but it took over 3 weeks and at the end i did not receive any solution.

     

    Best Regards,

    Ashraf

     

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    1. Tibor Gerke Post author

      Used memory by HANA database after some runtime
      Transaction DB12 > System Information > License
      System measurement:
      Memory Allocation (GB): 149GB

      So 140GB seems to be not enough memory for stable environment.

       

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  4. Nageswararao Seemakurty

    Hello

    I am little confused with the above instructions.  Are the above instructions meant for  installing S/4 Hana IDES on Hana Database ?  or  Sybase (ASE) database ?  Why do we need  IDES export and Frontend Export DVDs for RDBMS ASE ?  Why there was mention about /sybase filesystem usage after SGEN unless the installation is done on sybase database?  Can we do this IDES installation on Hana database instead of Sybase database and can the DB and Appserver be installed on one single Linux server ?  Please suggest.

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    1. Tibor Gerke Post author

      Best is to start with reading SAP note 2445594 – IDES S/4 HANA 1610

      Solution > 3. Hardware Requirements describes the requirements for two systems, which are provided as IDES Export.

      1. S/4HANA 1610 System on HANA database
      2. Fiori Frond-end Server on SAP ASE database

      The 2nd part is optional, only required if you want to use the Fiori Apps in this IDES installation.

       

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  5. Russ Wagner

    Great blog Tibor.

    I am just about to kick-off the same (S/4HANA 1610 / IDES) on AWS (Amazon).  Please continue to update the blog as you have.  It’s been a great resource for me.

    Russ

     

     

     

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  6. Jayson Parker

    Hi Tibor,

    For the OData services already configured on the FrontEnd, did you update the system alias of all of the services to point to the new backend instance?  I’m trying to find a way to do a mass update to all the active OData services to set the system alias to my backend.  I would prefer to not go through them one-by-one 🙂

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