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  1. Johan Hakkesteegt

    Mostly a repeat of the what and when that has been talked about in different blogs, and thus not particularly interesting.

    I am still not hearing an actual why, other then a couple of tech buzz words. “Because we want 1dx” is not much of an explanation.

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    1. Jelena Perfiljeva

      Well, this is one hardcore IT guy interviewing another hardcore IT guy, so buzzwords are to be expected. 🙂

      As to “why” – isn’t the answer obvious that Jive platform needs to go away? Surely everyone who ever dealt with an SAP rollout must be familiar with the situation. “Aaaah, why are you replacing our wonderful mainframe system with this piece of German junk??!!!”. Uhm, mostly because the “wonderful” system is out of support, hardware is dying and we can’t make use of many modern technologies like, you know, emailing invoices to the customers. Same here: for us, the SCN users, wonderful SCN works fine but I guess the SCN team sees a different picture on their side.

      It’s not that I like 1DX and mere idea of merging SCN with the rest of SAP (and SAP marketing taking over our beloved community) gives me the hibbie jibbies. I can understand everyone’s frustration. But SCN platform outlived itself and it’s simply time to move on. I’m not sure why there is urgency but there could be some licensing issue or what’s not (maybe SCN team could speak more to that). But again, it’s not something unusual in the IT world.

      On a bright side – the SCN team will no longer be able to blame Jive for any shortcomings. This time they made a choice of platform, so it better not be Jive 2.

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      1. Johan Hakkesteegt

        Jelena Perfiljeva wrote:

        …system is out of support, hardware is dying and we can’t make use of many modern technologies…

        Now these are clear reasons, that I think also work for the less technically inclined, as it is simple common sense. It is something like this that I would love to hear from the dev team.

        However it only explains why to ditch the Jive platform. I am still not sure why 1dx? What does 1dx add to the SCN?

                                    Jelena Perfiljeva wrote:

        It’s not that I like 1DX and mere idea of merging SCN with the rest of SAP (and SAP marketing taking over our beloved community) gives me the hibbie jibbies…

        With you on this.

                                    Jelena Perfiljeva wrote:

        …But SCN platform outlived itself and it’s simply time to move on…

        Forgive me, but that is just as good an explanation as “Because we want 1dx”

        How and why did it outlive itself?

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        1. Jelena Perfiljeva

          Forgive me, but that is just as good an explanation as “Because we want 1dx”

          How and why did it outlive itself?

          “SCN platform” = Jive, so I’m not sure why this is a question… According to the SCN team, Jive platform did not suit their needs well and did not allow to do things the SCN community and SAP wanted to do. It was pain in the back even for SDN and I don’t really know why SAP didn’t ditch it back in 2012 migration.

          On 1DX you might want to read the post that started it all, I think it explains the :why” part: Future of Community and One Digital Experience

          Of course, we (myself included) were very happy to see Jive ago. But I guess in our wildest dreams we could not imagine we’d get SCN Alpha Beta that is missing basic features that worked fine in darn Jive.

          P.S. Oliver posted a blog today, see if it answers some of the questions: Future of Community and One Digital Experience

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        2. Oliver Kohl

          Hi Johan,

          Why not Jive anymore? here are 10 good reasons:

          1. product roadmap not aligned with our goals. they focused on intranet solutions a year or so after our launch. now they don’t know anymore what to focus on.
          2. this is why we are on an old, unsupported version, because there is no good reason to upgrade -> see 1)
          3. blogging, Q&A, moderation is mediocre, doesn’t get improved significantly
          4. no good mobile application, no responsive design (well, they got it with version 8 last year)
          5. this! Jive Software Inc: NASDAQ:JIVE quotes & news – Google Finance
          6. extensibility & control – there is so much more we can do now
          7. no single point of failure
          8. 10 Q&A for the price of one Jive
          9. a huge open source ecosystem of WordPress plugins we can use (which made it super easy to get us ABAP code highlighting, just as one example)
          10. doesn’t align with the 1DX vision, which I fully believe in. we would have never been able to integrate it into SAP.com like we can do with our current architecture

          of course you can argue that what we are going to launch this weekend still lacks certain features and isn’t as good as what we have currently in some areas. But stagnation is lethal and we had to put ourself into a position where we can innovate again and push this community forward.

          hope that explains it a bit.

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      1. Veselina Peykova

        @Jelena: thank you, unfortunately the original also requires Flash player.

        I keep a VM with Flash installed – for the very rare cases, when I need it, so I have options 🙂 .

        Flash is not supported everywhere.

        If this site is aiming to become mobile-friendly in a few days, a good starting point can be to use formats, which can be played on any laptop, tablet or smartphone.

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      1. Veselina Peykova

        Yes it works, thank you, Facebook handles these matters better.

        Can we expect that with the new mobile-friendly site, SAP would start to move away from Flash-based content?

        I am asking mainly because in the future using Flash player will become a greater challenge.

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