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Author's profile photo Jürgen Lins

Myth Buster: Any system message can be set to warning or error

It is time to clear up a widely mistaken belief, although it became almost established as truth due to the massive wrong answers given in a high disproportion when someone failed to search or is seeking for a new answer to the question “How to make error message & a warning?” or “Changing warning message to error not working” 


It is really interesting to see how attractive such questions are. Within a few minutes several answers are pointing to the customizing. Some mention the IMG path others are giving the transaction code to the same customizing. I wonder from where these suggestions are taken. Did they look up older questions and just repeat the answer? Or do they just believe that any system message can be customized, one only has to know the right customizing transaction.


So the typical discussion goes like this:

“I want to make message MM 081 to become an error”

“no problem – execute OMT4 and add this message and maintain an E for error”


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Why was he shocked?

OMT4 does not even have a “New Entry”-Button

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No issue at all, now the Techies jump in and inform that this is all stored in table T160M and suggest to maintain this table directly with SM30 transaction

😥 : not possible  I get and error “The maintenance dialog for T160M is incomplete or not defined”

😆 : Click the message, it takes you to the long text. Here you have the option to generate a maintenance dialog

😘 : Thank you.

😳 : Hi, I have one more question. I added the message as said. But it does not work, can you help me.

All are going now, leaving a desert with an unanswered question, and one more thread about how and where to maintain flexible system messages

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Have you ever tried to start a car that you see in a parking space with your own keys? Why not? Probably because you know that you cannot use any key to drive any car. Why are you assuming it for any message in SAP?


Just imagine the car is transaction where you expect the warning or error according to your entry (the key) in table T160M (ignition lock). You already smashed the window to open the door (SM30, because OMT4 did not let you in)

Still the motor does not start. Are you disappointed?


Like the ignition lock needs the right key, your SAP transaction needs the right ABAP that recognize your entry.

If SAP has not foreseen a variable message in its ABAP coding, then you enter as much as you want in T160M, it will just not work.


SAP’s system messages are all stored in table T100, a small subset is foreseen to be customized, these are stored in table T160M.

T160M entries are delivered by SAP. Some more messages can be added because the programs have been prepared for this. Those new entries are usually communicated via OSS notes.


How to know if a message is customizable which is not yet in T160M?

  • Search SCN, if you find a “Hooray, it works” then you got already a good indication.
  • search SAP Support Portal
  • Check it from transaction SE91 Message Maintenance, you should know some basics in ABAP language.
    • In SE91 enter your message class and message number and click the Where-used button. SAP gives you a list of programs. double click the description on the right and SAP takes you into the ABAP directly to the place where the message is processed. Here you can see whether it is just a message with a hardcoded message attribute, like this
      • IF OFFENER_RG_WERT NE 0.

      •    MESSAGE W388(11).

      • ENDIF.

    • or if there is some coding which is looking into T160M table to get your customized attribute:
      • PERFORM enaco_2 USING ‘ME’ ‘040’.

      •               CASE sy-subrc.

      •                 WHEN 1.

      •                   MESSAGE w040 INTO gl_dummy.

      •                   mmpur_message ‘W’ ‘ME’ ‘040’ ” ” ” ”.

      •                 WHEN 2.

      •                   MESSAGE e040 INTO gl_dummy.

      •                   mmpur_message ‘E’ ‘ME’ ‘040’ ” ” ” ”.

      •                 WHEN 3.

      •                   MESSAGE w040 INTO gl_dummy.

      •                   mmpur_message ‘W’ ‘ME’ ‘040’ ” ” ” ”.

      •               ENDCASE.



By the way, there are message customizing where you can add new entries, still the above said is valid for them too.


Sorry for killing a dream


Trigger to this story can be read in Application area MM and Changing warning message to error message – Entry Sheet and many many more discussions in SCN and elsewhere.

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      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Informative and enjoyable read at the same time 😛

      Author's profile photo Colleen Hebbert
      Colleen Hebbert

      This is on par with adding a security authorisation to a role will mean the transaction now restricts on plant or company code, etc.

      Author's profile photo Jelena Perfiljeva
      Jelena Perfiljeva

      My thoughts exactly - so many times we see a question "we added so-and-so to the role, why isn't it working?".

      Great blog, Jurgen! Had a good laugh with the car analogy. Priceless! 🙂

      Author's profile photo Bijay Kumar Barik
      Bijay Kumar Barik

      Jurgen,

      Very Informative and yes, killing a dream 🙂

      Regards,

      Biju K

      Author's profile photo Sudeep A
      Sudeep A

      Hi Jurgen,

      Great blog.. Really informative. When a message doesn't work through customizing, we used to guess 'Oh..it must be hard coded'.. This blog is a solid information which proves our understanding was right.. 😉 And got an idea how to check whether a message can be configured.. 🙂

      Thanks for sharing your knowledge..

      Regards,

      Sudeep.

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      this is very use full for all of us 🙂

      Author's profile photo Binoy Vargis
      Binoy Vargis

      Hi Jurgen,

      You have given this in many threads.

      Thanks for making it a detailed document.

      Regards

      Binoy

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Dream Killer.... 😉

      Author's profile photo Jose Antonio Martinez
      Jose Antonio Martinez

      Thanks Jurgen.

      Very useful information!!


      Because sometimes we think if the solution is in a discussion forum it will works,  take it as a rule.

      Regards Antonio Martinez

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Awesome...learnt first hand 🙂

      Author's profile photo Jürgen L
      Jürgen L
      Blog Post Author

      I am glad that you kept participating and could finally confirm

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Learning something new everyday!!

      Thank you and the SCN community..

      Author's profile photo Robyn Couch
      Robyn Couch

      Excellent Jurgen

      Just a comment but people should be aware that the where used function in SE91 doesn't always return all uses of a message.  The function module CUSTOMIZED_MESSAGE for example does an excellent job of hiding message use.

      Author's profile photo Manish Kumar
      Manish Kumar

      Like the approach to pass the wonderful information in a humorous way. 😆

      Author's profile photo Kunal Ingale
      Kunal Ingale

      Really nice Jurgen.....A Writter is comign out of you...... 😉

      So any more Questions on T160M just route it to this Blog......

      Author's profile photo raghavendra sai
      raghavendra sai

      absplutely nowords

      Author's profile photo Rupesh Dhiwar
      Rupesh Dhiwar

      Thanks nice Information..

      Author's profile photo ßhģ Ġǿwdâ
      ßhģ Ġǿwdâ

      Jürgen L

      It is really interesting to see how attractive such questions are.

      Surely, Its really interesting to see how attractive and informative your blogs are. 🙂

      Reg,

      Bhg

      Author's profile photo Jürgen L
      Jürgen L
      Blog Post Author

      An official statement from SAP about the OMT4 messages can be found in Q&A 2 of OSS note 545211 - FAQ: Material master Customizing

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Informative.Thanks for sharing!

      Author's profile photo Naveen Vishal
      Naveen Vishal

      Very well explained Jurgen,

      Many functionals, mostly newbies, have the tendency to say just do it without understanding how SAP works.

      Good guide to be on SCN community and for us all.

      Author's profile photo Nitin Jinagal
      Nitin Jinagal

      Hello Sir,

      Very informative & nicely explained. I liked the Car stuff more than the blog itself 😛

      Nitin

      Author's profile photo Joao Sousa
      Joao Sousa

      Now I get to share this blog everytime someone does this.

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      That's really informative contents and yet enjoyable too 🙂

      Regards,

      Jaydip

      Author's profile photo Caetano Almeida
      Caetano Almeida

      Great blog Jürgen.

      Many messages are hardcoded as error messages to prevent inconsistencies or undesired system behaviors.

      I wrote the following document which explains how to check in debug where a message is triggered and it it's hardcoded:

      How to analyze an error message in debug

      BR

      Caetano

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Hi Jürgen, your posts&answers have helped me in solving many puzzles!

      may I ask you a question here or shoudl I go to the regular SCN thread for posting questions?

      We have recently upgraded to EHP 7 and suddenly we have a message (06 073, changed last by SAP after our upgrade according to the log) which is an error message, hardcoded, as I just found out thanks to your blog. That also explained why simply cusotmizing it as W message did not help.

      Due to this change even our old stock transfer orders (including consignment stokc TOs) are now with error due ot overdelivery. The users of cours,e want the "old process" back. What can I do?

      Thank you!

      Author's profile photo Joao Sousa
      Joao Sousa

      I'm not Jurgen, but I'm pretty sure you should open a thread in the forum. 🙂

      Author's profile photo Jürgen L
      Jürgen L
      Blog Post Author

      Joao is right, such questions should be posted in the forum. Only questions related to the blog itself should be addressed in comment section.

      In general, if behavior of messages changes with an upgrade then my first way to find the reason would be to check SAP Marketplace for OSS notes that could have brought this new behavior as a correction for a discovered error in earlier releases.

      if a search with 06073 does not bring much inside then a search with overdelivery STO  could get some more hits.

      Try those searches and if you still have the question then post it in the forum