Hi again,



SAP NetWeaver Visual Composer UI5 (such a long name 😉 , so may I call it VC5 ?)

Is available for NetWeaver customers as part of NW 731 SP11 and NW 740 SP6.

There is no extra cost for using VC , so you can start to use it immediately to create beautiful SAP UI5 applications

That can run on your desktop and tablets. You do not need to code anything .Just drag , drop , connect , configure, and your application

Can run within few hours.

So with our new VC5 you can choose if you want to create a WD app or UI5 app. You have to choose the RunTime when creating a new model.

VC WD has BI connector and full integration with BPM and can work with complicated WebServices.

Here we currently have some limitations with VC5 which cannot work with the BI connector, has no integration with BPM and can work only with simple web services.

But , we are waiting to hear from you and actually really looking forward to get your feedback and help us prioritize our development process according to our customers’ requirements.

So please help us to help you.

The clip below show a simple app with 1 service and 3 UI elements but if you know VC , you know that the sky is the limit , and if you don’t know , maybe it is time to give it a try …..

Have a great weekend ,

Gad

Visual Composer Team

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  1. Andy Silvey

    Hi Gad excellent news.

    You asked for feedback regarding prioritising development effort.

    VC WD has BI connector and full integration with BPM and can work with complicated WebServices. Here we currently have some limitations with VC5 which cannot work with the BI connector, has no integration with BPM and can work only with simple web services.

    In my experience having supported custom SAP Java development since EP5, it was prior to XSS’s (XSS in this context = X Self Servies – ESS/MSS/PSS etc) move to ABAP WebDynPro that the majority of custom Java developments were related to XSS. But in late 2007 those XSS Business Packages began their migration onto the ABAP Stacks as ABAP WebDynPro.

    Since the majority of the Portal’s Business Packages are in ABAP WebDynPro these days, apart from Biller Direct, then based on my experience there is not so much call these days for VC WD for the Portal.

    When CE came more mainstream around 2009, and customers started moving MDM interation, Change Tracker etc from the Portal to CE, and subsequently CE started getting BPM/BPEM capability, then custom Java development started heating up in the CE area – which is precisely the point of CE, get the custom development off the Portal.

    These days in my experience the majority of custom Java development is on CE and related to BPM/BPEM and everything in that orbit, which includes of course the Web Services, the MDM integration, the BI UDConnect etc.

    Hence, my feedback regarding prioritising further development of VC5 would be precisely to go for the areas which you mentioned are currently weak,

    . BI Connector

    . BPM & Web Servces

    . MDM integration

    as in my experience these days, the most custom Java development demands are for applications in these areas and hosted on CE.

    Looking forward to your feedback and feedback from others based upon their experiences of current demands in the area of SAP custom Java development.

    Best regards,

    Andy.

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    1. Gad Ravid Post author

      Wow Andy , you are fast (-:

      I completely agree with you and hope we will be able to develop all these in the near future, but since we have constrains it will be great if you can advise on the prioritization between these 3 areas.

      Thanks and have a great weekend , Gad

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      1. Andy Silvey

        Hi Gad,

        prioritization between BI Connector, BPM & WebServices, MDM Integration

        before trying to answer that, what would influence the answer would be, who is the Customer for VC5 ?

        You remember the GUI Machine, I’m going back to EP5 SP5, when GUI Machine (which became Visual Componser) was an Add-On for Enterprise Portal and therefore ran in the Web Browser.

        Running in the Web Browser made the GUI Machine/Visual Composer _really_ accessible, anybody with the Role(s) could access it and work with it. And it was really easy to use, I did demos with it, making simple BAPI based Iviews within 5 minutes. It was a tool which a Business Analyst in a Line of Business could learn to use.

        Fast forward to the Visual Composer for WebDynPro, and it has become an Add-On for Eclipse, meaning the User needs the whole Eclipse tool installed on their pc, obviously this greatly reduces accessibility, and using the tool became less intuitive and more for a Developer familiar with Eclipse and NWDI controlled development, so VC became a tool to speed up Developers in creating applications.

        Hence, my question, who is the Customer for VC5 ? Where is SAP positioning VC5 ? Is VC5 planned to be a tool to speed up certain tasks for seasoned Developers, or is the goal of VC5 to have a tool like the old Gui Machine where with a small amount of training a Business Analyst from the Line of Business could very soon be knocking out Iviews/Applications ?

        When I understand SAP’s goal for the VC, then I’ll be able to give feedback on where to prioritise development effort for the remaining pieces of the puzzle.

        If I were SAP, my goal would be to get back to the GUI Machine days, and position VC5 as a tool for Business Analysts to knock up useful applications in a short amount of time.

        Best regards,

        Andy.

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      2. Tobias Hofmann

        Not sure if BI Connector makes much sense, as for nice BI reports you can use BO and there are other tools. A few years ago VC was used by many SAP clients for creating BI reports, but that was before BO.

        I guess a pretty decent support for web services should give the most benefit to VC5 users. Web services can be found at many, many non SAP services too and exposing this data in a nice way is a challenge. This should allow to use VC5 as a visual tool to access SAP and non SAP data in a really neat and cool way, showing the additional SAP can offer to clients.

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      3. Vinod Kumar

        Hi Gad,

        Thanks you for the update. If you ask about the prioritization of the three mentioned, I would say BI connector. 

        As we discussed earlier ( around 3-4 months back), I am working on a project using SAP PBF 8.0, in which VC applications interact with BW using BI services.

        Thanks & Regards,

        Vinod

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        1. Gad Ravid Post author

          HI Vinod ,

          I’m just wondering ….. and Tobias answer here on top of your answer , doesn’t solve the issue?

          thanks, Gad

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  2. Luca Grilli

    Hi Gad, thanks for sharing. Please could you clarify me the difference between VC and the new SAP App Builder ? Both are able to create SAPUI5 application: it seem a complete overlapping of products.

    KR,

    Luca

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    1. Gad Ravid Post author

      Hi Luca,

      There is no overlapping . VC5 is for NetWeaver customers and works on top of BAPIs, JDBC and simple web services. For our On Premise customers . Regarding App Builder , I hope Yariv Zur can shed some light.

      thanks for your question , Gad

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  3. Tobias Hofmann

    But , we are waiting to hear from you and actually really looking forward to get your feedback and help us prioritize our development process according to our customers’ requirements

    well, I wrote you an email on how users can help a few days ago. Waiting for an answer 😉

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    1. Gad Ravid Post author

      Hi Tobias ,

      You are right . I’m working on it and will send you an answer soon . I saw that you are located in Rio, i think the best option is that i will come to visit in Rio 😉

      Thanks for your comment , Gad

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      1. greg sprowles

        I definitely would be interested in building UI5 apps against the BI connectors. Business Objects is just an extra layer for us and a browser-based, mobile, BI app would be ideal.

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