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Installation of SAP on RAC with Oracle ASM

Dear All,

I am writing this blog , as i faced issue on installing SAP system on oracle RAC with ASM.

When i raised a message with SAP , SAP told me to install SAP on  oracle and then migrate it to RAC with ASM.

So i want to add few points to make it easier for others. There are few importants points which we need to remember.

1. SWPM will give you four options to install SAP

       i. Single Instance on Filesystem

       ii. Single Instance on Oracle ASM

       iii. RAC on Filesystem

       iv. RAC on oracle ASM

2.Database RAC Parameter

3. We need to know about the scan listener name and port which it is using. By default it uses a port 1521.

4. Listener Configuration for each RAC Node.

I have to install the SAP on RAC with oracle ASM , in a distributed environment, so i installed the SCS first , which got completed successfully.

After this ,i started the installation with Database instance installation.

What option should we select in SWPM for RAC?

SWPM will give you four options for Database installation scenario.

        i.  Single Instance on Filesystem (normal)

       ii.  Single Instance on Oracle ASM(oracle is on ASM without RAC  )

       iii. RAC on Filesystem (RAC nodes without ASM )

       iv. RAC on oracle ASM(RAC node will exists with ASM)

I have selected option RAC on oracle ASM as we are having RAC with ASM environment.

          sapinst1.PNG

Database RAC Parameter

In the below diagram , where you need to provide the RAC Parameters

i. Database Name : You need to enter the Database name(DBSID) as per your requirement for example i have given DBSID as RAD.

ii. Number of instances : You need to specify the number of instances to be created which in turn depends on the number of RAC Node.

Suppose , we are having three RAC node RACN1 , RACN2 , RACN3 and i have mentioned DBSID as RAD.

Since we are using three RAC node so Number of Instances we need to mentioned 3 and it will create three instances of DB and                                              assigned them to each RAC node.

                                         RACN1—–>RACN2—–>RACN3

                                          RAD1            RAD2          RAD3

iii. Length of Instance Number : i. One character

                                                   ii. Three character.

if we select the one character option , then DBSID(in our case which is RAD) followed by one character digit for each instance on RAC  node.

For eample

                                      

                                         RACN1—–>RACN2—–>RACN3

                                          RAD<N>     RAD<N+1> RAD<N+2> Where N stands for Length for Instance Number

                                      Since we have selected the option one character so here value of N will start from 1.

                                           RACN1—–>RACN2—–>RACN3

                                            RAD1           RAD2           RAD3    where N=1

So it will be same for three character option where N starts from 001 and so the naming convention for the instances will be

                  

                                            RACN1——->RACN2——->RACN3

                                            RAD001         RAD002          RAD003    where N=001

                                  

              sapinst2.PNG

What we need to know about the SCAN Listener?

SWPM asked for scan listener name only but we need to input port number as well , which it didn’t asked for?

if you don’t specify the port number , it will give I/O network error and will not able to connect to Database.

When we setup the RAC environment , a Server control utility get installed on each RAC node by default which is used to start ,stop , manage configuration information and also used to add and remove the instances from RAC environment. By the help of Server control utility , we can get the scan listener name and its port number.

When we run below command on the primary RAC node , we will be get the scan listener name.

srvctl config scan

It will give us the scan listener name and ip information(Generally we keep three scan listener)

srvctl config scan_listener

The above command , will let us know which port is configured for the scan listener.

Here we need to enter the correct scan listener name which is configured on RAC environment as it will have it own scan listener.

SCAN stands for Single client Access Name.

Scan Listener* : Enter the scan listener name which will be used by the SAP to connect to Database and if , it is a Dual stack or only Java stack then JDBC string will be created using the scan listener name.

                           sapinst2.PNG

After firing the command ” srvctl config scan” and “srvctl config scan_listener” we will get the scan listener name and its port number

Suppose our scan listener name is scan1 and port number is 1521 (which is default) so in Label

                         

                             Oracle RAC secure store connect* will be like this

                         

                              jdbc:oracle:thin:@/scan1:1521/Service_name  since the Service_name is the DBSID which is RAD.

                         

                             So the final string , will be

                             jdbc:oracle:thin:@/scan1:1521/RAD (Here i have mentioned the port 1521 explicitly)

                      

                           sapinst3.PNG

Listener Configuration for each RAC Node

You need to configure the local listener parameter for each RAC node and remote listener parameter will be scan listener which will be common for each RAC node.

In Spfile<SID>.ora , you need to add local listener for each RAC node with the port number which will be different from scan listener port number.

In Spfile<SID>.ora , you need to remove the parameter *.local_listener and in place of it you need to add three parameter for each RAC node and the corresponding instance. For example , we are having three instance distributed on each RAC node RACN1 , RACN2 , RACN3.

Local Listener parameter will be like this

RAD1.local_listener=’//RACN1:1527′   (for RAC node RACN1 having a instance RAD1)

RAD2.local_listener=’//RACN1:1527′   (for RAC node RACN2 having a instance RAD2)

RAD3.local_listener=’//RACN1:1527′   (for RAC node RACN3 having a instance RAD3)

                                                                       But

There will be only remote listener which will have the scan listener name and its port number

*.remote_listener=’//scan1:1521′ (it will be common on all the RAC Node)

Now why we are configuring the local listener on each RAC node with a a different port number.

We are configuring the local listener so that we can take the backup for Database using a BR*TOOLS.

I will be writing a next blog on BRTOOLS in RAC environment.

Please follow the below SAP Notes and While Paper published from SAP

1. Note 581320 – FAQ: Oracle Real Application Cluster (RAC)

2. Note 527843 – Oracle RAC support in the SAP environment

3. http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-8835

Kindly also check the blogs

Installation of SAP on RAC with Oracle ASM part 1(Distributed Environment)

Installation of SAP on RAC with Oracle ASM part 2(Distributed Environment)

Installation of SAP on  RAC with Oracle ASM part 3(Distributed Environment)

With Regards

Ashutosh Chaturvedi

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      Author's profile photo Kartik Natarajan
      Kartik Natarajan

      Thanks for sharing...Ashutosh Chaturvedi

      regards

      kartik

      Author's profile photo Ashutosh Chaturvedi
      Ashutosh Chaturvedi
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      Thank you Karthik

      With Regards

      Ashutosh Chaturvedi

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      Former Member

      Thanks for sharing this great article on installation of SAP on RAC. I was looking for information on this installation option for a longtime and there were exact info available till now.  Really appreciate for sharing.


      I have one doubt do we need to start the SAPINST with user “ORACLE” or can we start with any admin user.


      Regards

      Kishore

      Author's profile photo Ashutosh Chaturvedi
      Ashutosh Chaturvedi
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      Dear Ketu,

      You need to start sapinst with root user!!

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Thanks Ashutosh. Can we set manually the "cluster_database" parameter to true. Because the sapinst is taking it as "false" and also the comment says don't modify this parameter.

      Author's profile photo Ashutosh Chaturvedi
      Ashutosh Chaturvedi
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      Hi Ketu,

      SAPinst will change the parameter to true in perform oracle post load activities

      With Regards

      Ashutosh Chaturvedi

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      Former Member

      Hi Ashutosh,

      Thank you for sharing this valuable info

      Regards

      Sudhir Sadhu

      Author's profile photo ABHISHEK SINGH
      ABHISHEK SINGH

      Nice Document

      Author's profile photo Ashutosh Chaturvedi
      Ashutosh Chaturvedi
      Blog Post Author

      Thank you abhishek!!!

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Thanks a lot for the nice document. I am in the process of planning migration of  a SAP/Oracle database to Oracle RAC. Can I use the SWPM in the source system and export & use the spainst in the target server and do the import process - during the import process install the oracle in  RAC/ASM & import from the dump the source system?

      (similar to system copy except installing the oracle RAC/ASM in the target)

      Will this method work? Would appreicate if you can share your experience on this?

      Venkat

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      Former Member

      Nice blog....

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Nice document, is there any document which provides end to end SAP installation document on Oracle11gr2 RAC with ASM including Grid infrastructure installation with ASM and Oracle software installation, those binaries will be provided by Oracle or SAP.

      Author's profile photo Cornell Schimkus
      Cornell Schimkus

      A step by step guide can be found here: http://goo.gl/wncNqN

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      Former Member

      Excellent post, It really helped me in my first installation on RAC

      Author's profile photo Balamurugan R
      Balamurugan R

      Hi All,

      I have requirement to install SAP on oracle RAC , but oracle RAC was already installed by another vendor. Now I have to install SAP on it .

      Please help me how to proceed.

      Author's profile photo Ashutosh Chaturvedi
      Ashutosh Chaturvedi
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      Dear Balamurugan,

      Kindly share your email id , i will drop you a mail.

      With Regards

      Ashutosh Chaturvedi

      Author's profile photo Balamurugan R
      Balamurugan R

      Dear Ashutonsh,

      Thanks. Please share the details to balamurugan44.r@gmail.com

      And also I have to install 4 applications on the RAC whcih contains two nodes.

      When I check the scan listener name  in server , I can see LISTENER_SCAN1 in node one and LISTENER_SCAN2  in node 2 .

      While installing applications which listener name should I give .

      Can I use same listener name for all 4 applications .

      Please advise.

      Regards

      Bala

      Author's profile photo Balamurugan R
      Balamurugan R

      Hi Ashutosh,

      Could you please share me the details.

      balamurugan44.r@gmail.com

      Regards

      Bala

      Author's profile photo Ashutosh Chaturvedi
      Ashutosh Chaturvedi
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      Hi Bala,

      I have dropped you a mail with the details

      With Regards

      Ashutosh Chaturvedi

      Author's profile photo Ashutosh Chaturvedi
      Ashutosh Chaturvedi
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      Thank you Michael Rodrigo

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      Former Member

      Hello Ashutosh,

      Could you please share some document on Installation and Configuration of SAP HA
      ASCS/ERS Instances On Oracle 12 RAC on ASM , Mail ID : raju.basis@gmail.com.

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      Former Member

      Hello Ashutosh,

      We currently have  an environment in which the Oracle Database is setup and configured in a Oracle RAC environment and is working fine.  Our CI is configured in a Broken Red Hat Cluster.  We would like to Replace the CI with a new installation on SAP HA ASCS/ERS Instances On Oracle 12 RAC on ASM and connect it back to the existing database.  SAP has told me that I just need to install on Host A - PAS and Host B - AAS with ERS.  Do you know the steps I would take to do this and how I would configure it?  E-Mail is Marilyn.Daffron@yahoo.com

      Thanks!

      Marilyn

       

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      Former Member

      Hello Ashutosh,

      Do you have any documentation on upgrading SAP databases from 11gR2 to 12cR1 with RAC, ASM , and Multi-Tenant?