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Author's profile photo Jelena Perfiljeva

I can has Idea?

/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/scn_meme_259628.jpgFolks,

Now that the clever headline (*) got you here, let’s talk about some “submishunz” on Idea Place that totally deserve your attention and an up-vote, shall we? In no particular order I present to you:

Note that I have not included many great ideas that have already passed the ‘Submitted’ stage and (keeping my fingers crossed!) might be implemented at some point. Here is a link to the other ideas that are in ‘Submitted’ status. Please feel free to check it out and vote/comment. Note that now we need at least 15 ‘up’ votes to get an idea considered by SAP.

Yes, there is still no auto-logon on Idea Place (although you may logon with a certificate and S-user) and its’ intuitive and friendly user interface looks like it was brought to you by the creators of the SAP GRC system. But if we don’t vote on ideas then they won’t be implemented for sure, so let’s try to make some lemonade with what we have!

(*) Before anyone calls the Grammar Police – the headline is an homage to the famous I can has cheezburger meme. Thanks, Osvaldo Lopez for reminding me to think globally. 🙂

Disclaimer: the image used is my original compilation based on an image with ‘free to use and modify’ license, according to Google search. The image of The Most Interesting Man in the World from Dos Equis commercials (played ad nauseam on TV in the US) is used here in accordance with fair use license for the purposes of parody.

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      Author's profile photo Craig S
      Craig S

      Wa who!!!

      14 thumbs up on one of my suggestions! One more to go for consideration!!!! 

      Thanks for the publicity push Jelena!

      FF

      Author's profile photo Steffi Warnecke
      Steffi Warnecke

      Wohooo! You're gonna get the badge "Queen of idea land" for sure! 😀

      Very cool idea to promote the place and it's important content. I hope, this gets people's attention.

      Author's profile photo Thomas Zloch
      Thomas Zloch

      I agree anyway, so I'm just commenting that Dos Equis was one of my favorite beers while working in the US (a looong time ago), this brings back some memories.

      Cheers & thanks for the initiative

      Thomas

      Author's profile photo Jelena Perfiljeva
      Jelena Perfiljeva
      Blog Post Author

      Thanks, Thomas! I'm not a beer drinker myself, but you might be surprised that in the past 10 years there have been many positive changes in the US beverage industry, with the raise of microbreweries and whats not. The same goes for food - realy amazing changes. You might want to come visit again soon. 🙂

      Author's profile photo Roberto Vidotti
      Roberto Vidotti

      Thanks for having undelined some intersting ideas, time is short, the forums are so many and so many requests that often I discover some interesting things by accident, like this time.

      Regards and thanks

           Roberto

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Very well done!

      I actually go bezerk with login functionalities on many of the SAP sites. Let it be SCN, JAM etc. So yes a user friendly solution which is inline with the expectations one might have from year 2013 web app really deserves attention!

      Author's profile photo Jelena Perfiljeva
      Jelena Perfiljeva
      Blog Post Author

      Carsten, I dread the day when IT comes to replace my 3 year old laptop and I might lose the remembered passwords, etc. In the era when we can logon with Google account to Yahoo, one would think that at least a single user ID should be good for the whole SAP public site line up.

      Author's profile photo Martin English
      Martin English

      You can store your SAP Single Signon (where Single is any value greater than 1) certificates in your browser (you probably know that anyway 🙂 ), but you can also export these certificates.

      Part of my regular personal maintenance (along with showering, shaving etc) is back these up to USB / Dropbox / gDrive / SkyDrive etc, and one of the first things I do on a new site is mail the file to myself@newsite.com and import them again.

      hth

      Author's profile photo Lukas Weigelt
      Lukas Weigelt

      Thank you for collecting these ideas into this blog. I must confess I'm feeling kind of "meh" when I'ts about the idea place since I haven't (yet) experienced anybody of its deciders being sensible towards good ideas... but maybe it's just me... anyway... I promoted most of the ideas you collected here and hope somebody will care.

      Author's profile photo Osvaldo Lopez
      Osvaldo Lopez

      Agree with you.

      Lukas Weigelt wrote:

                             

      (...) I promoted most of the ideas you collected here and hope somebody will care.

                         

      Maybe you should read this: http://scn.sap.com/thread/3356385

      Good luck 😉

      Author's profile photo Marssel Vilaça
      Marssel Vilaça

      Congratulations for those improvement ideas of discussions.

      I see lots of answers with lots of topics left behind by owners.

      Regards

      Author's profile photo Osvaldo Lopez
      Osvaldo Lopez

      Excuse me.

      "I can has ideas" ?  😯

      Author's profile photo Jelena Perfiljeva
      Jelena Perfiljeva
      Blog Post Author

      Osvaldo, the original line was I can has cheezburger. Sorry, I should've explained that it's a cultural reference, not my poor grammar skills. 🙂

      Author's profile photo Osvaldo Lopez
      Osvaldo Lopez

      Hahahaha lol, all right. It's good for me learning something new 😉

      I don't know about "Cheezburger". Sorry, I'm from Argentine. It does not exist here.

      And, about grammar skills, don't worry.

      I've got poor english skills 😉

      And maybe you should edit the post, and make a note-call (or something like "Title*") and a post-note to the CheezBurger.

      Regards!

      Author's profile photo Jelena Perfiljeva
      Jelena Perfiljeva
      Blog Post Author

      Osvaldo - yes, I agree and done. Thanks for pointing this out!

      Author's profile photo Laure Cetin
      Laure Cetin

      Do you mean that Argentine has such good steaks that you don't make cheeseburgers? 😉

      Author's profile photo Jelena Perfiljeva
      Jelena Perfiljeva
      Blog Post Author

      Thank you, everyone, for the feedback and for voting on the ideas!

      It's sad that the Idea Place still seems to hold the reputation of "the place were ideas go to die" despite the efforts made by the team supporting it. Seeing that there are so many ideas in the 'Delivered' status I wondered if somehow I missed a memo on major improvements implemented on SCN. However, when browsing through the list I've noticed some ideas with even negative votes and soon realised that those ideas were really just closed with no action (e.g. functionality already existed). Not sure such "creative accounting" is projecting the right image. Wouldn't it be more helpful to everyone to see a list of the ideas that were truly implemented by making a change?

      Also there are only 300+ ideas in the SCN session, so it shouldn't be so difficult to see even all of them in a list (without much detail or fancy buttons). But instead the only options I found were to scroll (very slowly) the pages by 5 or 10 items. Even the RSS feed is "for this page", what sense does it even make?

      Oh well. At least we can hope it gets better from there. 🙂

      Author's profile photo Nicolas Busson
      Nicolas Busson

      Hi Jelena,

      Thanks for promoting a few interesting ideas here. And you mentioned a "15 votes" limit for an idea to be considered by SAP. Where did you get this figure from? Do you happen to find a document that would provide more transparency on the process about what happens once an idea has been submitted?

      Cheers,

      Nick.

      Author's profile photo Jürgen L
      Jürgen L

      Hi Nicolas, Oxana Noa Zubarev had blogged about it: The SCN Innovation and Enhancements Idea Session Guidelines

      Jelena Perfiljeva, excellent idea to blog about good ideas

      Author's profile photo Nicolas Busson
      Nicolas Busson

      Excellent! Thanks for pointing this out.

      Author's profile photo Jürgen L
      Jürgen L

      What actually happened to your idea about renaming "Report Abuse" to "Alert Moderator"?

      I can't even find it anymore in the Idea place.

      Author's profile photo Nicolas Busson
      Nicolas Busson

      Indeed!

      Here is what the link to this idea used to be:

      https://ideas.sap.com/ct/ct_a_view_idea.bix?c=8A060447-ED55-41EB-905E-C077161D66AC&idea_id=22EA4BD7-89C6-4BE2-A65A-DAE4451A33BB

      But it has been moved, and as far as I'm concerned I do not have to right to see it anymore. The same occurs with many other ideas.

      Author's profile photo Steffi Warnecke
      Steffi Warnecke

      Maybe it's been moved to be reviewed? 😕

      Author's profile photo Osvaldo Lopez
      Osvaldo Lopez

      Mmm that's scary. 😛

      +1 to post the new ideas in a blog's post to "remember", just in case the idea desappear without a trace.

      Regards

      Author's profile photo Jelena Perfiljeva
      Jelena Perfiljeva
      Blog Post Author

      Found it - it's 'Under Review'. Looks like the link has changed for some reason, rather strange:

      https://ideas.sap.com/ct/ct_a_view_idea.bix?c=8E39AA3E-80C0-40DA-A91F-216247784509&idea_id={56194440-DAD0-4490-97A9-D44FB7295E15}

      There is a filter by status in the 'Idea session' that could be useful sometimes.

      Author's profile photo Nicolas Busson
      Nicolas Busson

      Hi Jelena,

      For your information here is the error message I get when following the link you just provided:

      So I guess this idea is no longer publicly visible... or sapideaplace is facing issues.

      Cheers,

      Nick.

      Author's profile photo Jürgen L
      Jürgen L

      the link does not work for me - maybe only the owner can see it

      SO SORRY

      Your request could not be processed.

      Please provide the following information to your support representative.
      URL: ideas.sap.com/ct/ct_a_view_idea.bix?c=8E39AA3E-80C0-40DA-A91F-216247784509&idea_id={56194440-DAD0-4490-97A9-D44FB7295E15
      Time: 2013-08-12 10:25:03
      Ref ID: FA2C5D5E

      I searched by user, but I can only see 4 ideas from you

      Just added the } at the end now, but the message just turned into:

      You do not have access to this area.

      Please click here to go back

      Author's profile photo Jelena Perfiljeva
      Jelena Perfiljeva
      Blog Post Author

      Yes, you're right - I can see it when I logged on, but it's not visible otherwise. Very strange, it shouldn't be like that...

      Maybe Oxana Noa Zubarev or Kuhan Milroy could clarify why the idea became "invisible"?

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Hi Jelena,

      New category was created for ideas targeting specific groups- moderators, space editors and mentors. I posted a blog about it: http://scn.sap.com/community/moderators-and-editors/blog/2013/07/09/announcement-scn-innovations-moderators-mentors-and-space-editors-category-in-idea-place-is-now-opened  in the Moderators and Space Editors space and I used Mentors tags to increase visibility. Please let me know if you can't see it.

      Ideas that were related to moderation, SE, mentors practices were moved to the new category. If a person is in the Mentors, Moderators or Space Editors groups s/he should be able to see these. Please let me know If you are able to see these ideas. The link is provided in the blog and can be found here.

      In addition all original posters received an automated email notifying about the move.

      Please note that following the move the votes count was reset, however we can still see who voted and count number of votes quickly.

      Jürgen L you should be able to see this idea as you are in the group. Please follow this link: https://ideas.sap.com/ct/ct_a_view_idea.bix?c=8E39AA3E-80C0-40DA-A91F-216247784509&idea_id=56194440-DAD0-4490-97A9-D44FB7295E15

      Thanks,

      Oxana

      Author's profile photo Jürgen L
      Jürgen L

      No, I have no access

      I receive this message, no difference if I logged in before or not:

      You do not have access to this area.

      Please click here to go back

      Author's profile photo Nicolas Busson
      Nicolas Busson

      Hmm: people like me cannot see your blog post, and they can no longer follow a few ideas they voted for... So now I'm wondering what secret you wanna keep that deserves so much precaution.

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Hi Nicolas,

      No secrets 🙂 . This idea session was created in order to have a place to better organize ideas and proposed new practices for moderators, space editors and mentors. These ideas have a direct impact on these groups, thus should be collected in one place.

      I apologize for the inconvenience caused with the idea that you've created. I moved it right away to the original category.  

      Thanks,

      Oxana

      Author's profile photo Jelena Perfiljeva
      Jelena Perfiljeva
      Blog Post Author

      Oxana, thanks for a response.

      I can't see the blog either ('unauthorized' error), but in any case not sure I understand why that particular idea had to be restricted to the moderator area. This button is visible to everyone, hence the idea affects every SCN member. It should still be visible to everyone, not just the moderators. Also found the Nicolas's idea there ('Do not show locked questions when filtering on "Open questions"'), why was it moved? No wonder it has 0 votes/comments - no one can see it now...

      This doesn't seem right to "hide" the ideas that are related to the site's main functionality, not just strictly to the moderation features. Looks like an another review might be in order...

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Hi Jelena,

      Thank you for your response. I think that in this case the idea can be in both categories, but of course it is for the owner to decide. Since there is no damage and the votes are being kept, ideas can be moved. With your permission I moved the Rename "Report Abuse" button as "Alert Moderator" back to the SCN Innovation and Enhancements category. Another idea that could be in both categories was identified and I'll reach out to the poster to ask for his opinion. As for the blog, I've posted it in the category under the News section. Please let me know if you can find it.

      Thanks,

      Oxana

      Author's profile photo Jürgen L
      Jürgen L

      I can find the idea when I log on myself to the idea place and search for it, but with clicking your link and auto logon I get the error like in Nicolas reply

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      You just made me smile Jelena Perfiljeva 😘 , doesn't deserve anything less than 5 stars!

      I hope that TPTB take a note of this and implement (read: deliver) a few 😉

      Cheers,

      Suhas

      Author's profile photo Jitendra Kansal
      Jitendra Kansal

      Well done Jelena.

      You have put all good ideas in single blog.

      Regards,

      Jitendra

      Author's profile photo Laure Cetin
      Laure Cetin

      Excellent! A good compilation and a good intro as well. You got me at the picture. I have to say I was also puzzled by the title, I guess I don't spend enough time watching cute videos. Instead it's trains, trucks, airplanes, etc with my son.

      Cheers, I'm about to open a bottle of beer now.

      Laure

      Author's profile photo Steffi Warnecke
      Steffi Warnecke

      I just wanted to push this blog back into sight. ^^

      Some of the ideas featured by Jelena got a lot of votes and are safely over the needed 15 votes-limit. But others still wait to get enough promotion to jump that high.

      Also a lot of new ideas found their way into the idea place. So please go to the idea place SCN session (best with the status filter on "Submitted") and VOTE VOTE VOTE, people! 🙂

      Sadly the last mentioned idea Rename "Report Abuse" button as "Alert Moderator" seems to be still/again in the moderator category and therefor not accessable for normal users to promote.

      GO COMMUNITY!

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Hi Steffi,

      Thanks for raising the awareness 🙂

      Rename "Report Abuse" button as "Alert Moderator" idea was moved, but the link that you are using leads to a page where users are requested to click on another link to get there: "This idea has been moved. Click here to view this idea." Please let me know if you don't see this.

      Best,

      Oxana

      Author's profile photo Steffi Warnecke
      Steffi Warnecke

      Hello Oxana,

      yes, I see it. But after clicking the link I land on the startpage of the idea place. 🙁

      Author's profile photo Steffi Warnecke
      Steffi Warnecke

      Okay. I just clicked on the link in your post and with that one it called up the idea. oO It's just the link from idea place that sends me to the startpage. Strange.

      Thanks Oxana! 🙂 Funky linking is keeping me on my toes. 😀

      Author's profile photo Jelena Perfiljeva
      Jelena Perfiljeva
      Blog Post Author

      Thanks for the bump, Steffi! 🙂 I updated the blog and added a link to that idea.

      Author's profile photo Steffi Warnecke
      Steffi Warnecke

      You are very welcome! 🙂

      Author's profile photo Jürgen L
      Jürgen L

      Congratulation Jelena, 2 delivered ideas on 1 day.

      This deserves an extra badge in my opinion, maybe with the "Helper" of Gyro Gearloose on it

      Author's profile photo Jelena Perfiljeva
      Jelena Perfiljeva
      Blog Post Author

      Thank you, Jürgen! Just shows that we can get things done when working together. Unless it's a 'dislike button'... 🙂

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Hi Jelena,

      Good Day!

      This blog definitely reach and get to SCN Members attention. Nicely written and I feel different while reading this blog. Good comparison of some of our SCN members.

      Cheers!

      Regards,

      Hari Suseelan

      Author's profile photo Christopher Solomon
      Christopher Solomon

      All your idea are belong to us. 😉

      Author's profile photo kishan P
      kishan P

      Jelena,

      Congratulations on the Delivered Ideas. Please promote this Idea in your blog too:

      Pre-moderate blogs and documents for members with less than Gold status

      Author's profile photo Lukas Weigelt
      Lukas Weigelt

      Kishan, I just demoted your idea. I know dozens of people that scarcely contribute, but when they do, it's top notch content. On the contrary I know quite a bunch with Platin or higher who mostly contribute Bull****. There is no measurable technical parameter for a decision whether somebody has 'matured' enough to contribute without pre-moderation. IMHO either enable pre-moderation for everybody and manually disable it or leave everything as it is and keep reporting do-needful-blogs.

      All your idea are belong to us

      I see what you did there, Christopher o_o

      Author's profile photo kishan P
      kishan P

      Lukas,

      Firstly I would like to clarify that the idea posted in Idea Place belongs to Jelena, but having said that I would like to add that if this Idea wasn't already there I would have raised it.

      Secondly, everybody is entitled to their opinion so yeah I respect your opinion and understand the reasons behind it. You are right about the Platinum level members posting bull. In fact it is one such member who's the reason behind this rant and voting-up the Idea in the first place. But then this member wouldn't have reached that Platinum level if we were in the old Jive platform and gamification was still an unknown entity.

      The old Jive platform more-or-less gave a better picture of who was eligible to blog without a pre-moderation hurdle. But now everybody and anybody can reach a platinum level simply by "liking" posts and comments! What's worse is that SCN has raised the bar for what is an acceptable blog and what is not. This has opened the flood gates for the point-hoarders. There is a lot of redundant and useless information in this area.

      One simple thing that can be done is to remove points for Likes and see how these blogs fare in popularity.

      Author's profile photo Patrick Dean
      Patrick Dean

      Solid case. I just wish everyone on SDN was this sensible! 😆