I can has Idea?
Folks,
Now that the clever headline (*) got you here, let’s talk about some “submishunz” on Idea Place that totally deserve your attention and an up-vote, shall we? In no particular order I present to you:
- Enable “Insert picture” button in comments submitted by Steffi Warnecke. If we had this on SCN, you would totally be able to comment on this blog with your own funny picture.
- Track Tags in Communications by Jason Lax. Don’t know about you, but my own Communications page is just a hot mess of all kinds of information streams, so really any improvement in this would be very welcome.
- Limit number of open discussions allowed by Craig S. Such limit actually existed on the “old SDN” (it was 10 open questions, I believe) and I’m still confused as to why we have to submit something that just got lost in migration as some new “idea”. But if that’s what it takes – heck, it’s not like I’ve never had an argument myself with the users regarding “break-fix vs. enhancement”.
- A related entry, also from FF: Prompt or message indicating number of open discussions. If you’re wondering what’s the big whoop about the open discussions, please read the blog How to close a discussion and why by Jürgen L.
- Items with no replies by yours truly. This is another “lost in translation” item (a forum filter that we had on SDN).
- Despite being once rejected, my good old idea Dislike/Thumbs down button has been gathering steam again lately. Know that if you ever clicked thumbs up / thumbs down on a YouTube video, you’re legally obligated to go vote on this idea.
- Another very cool up-and-coming idea (also mine, mine, mine!) for a new Insufficient detail button in Discussions. Read more on its origins in the comments to the blog Wouldn’t it be Great if People Wanted to Get Their Questions Answered – more rant by Neal Wilhite.
- Update: just posted new idea Report Abuse – add ‘Failed to search’. Not sure for how long we were going to pretend this didn’t exist on SDN and was not the most frequent reason for hitting that button.
- Update 10/2/13: Rename Report Abuse button as Alert Moderator idea has been liberated from the moderator area and is available for everyone to vote on.
Note that I have not included many great ideas that have already passed the ‘Submitted’ stage and (keeping my fingers crossed!) might be implemented at some point. Here is a link to the other ideas that are in ‘Submitted’ status. Please feel free to check it out and vote/comment. Note that now we need at least 15 ‘up’ votes to get an idea considered by SAP.
Yes, there is still no auto-logon on Idea Place (although you may logon with a certificate and S-user) and its’ intuitive and friendly user interface looks like it was brought to you by the creators of the SAP GRC system. But if we don’t vote on ideas then they won’t be implemented for sure, so let’s try to make some lemonade with what we have!
(*) Before anyone calls the Grammar Police – the headline is an homage to the famous I can has cheezburger meme. Thanks, Osvaldo Lopez for reminding me to think globally. 🙂
Disclaimer: the image used is my original compilation based on an image with ‘free to use and modify’ license, according to Google search. The image of The Most Interesting Man in the World from Dos Equis commercials (played ad nauseam on TV in the US) is used here in accordance with fair use license for the purposes of parody.
Wa who!!!
14 thumbs up on one of my suggestions! One more to go for consideration!!!!
Thanks for the publicity push Jelena!
FF
Wohooo! You're gonna get the badge "Queen of idea land" for sure! 😀
Very cool idea to promote the place and it's important content. I hope, this gets people's attention.
I agree anyway, so I'm just commenting that Dos Equis was one of my favorite beers while working in the US (a looong time ago), this brings back some memories.
Cheers & thanks for the initiative
Thomas
Thanks, Thomas! I'm not a beer drinker myself, but you might be surprised that in the past 10 years there have been many positive changes in the US beverage industry, with the raise of microbreweries and whats not. The same goes for food - realy amazing changes. You might want to come visit again soon. 🙂
Thanks for having undelined some intersting ideas, time is short, the forums are so many and so many requests that often I discover some interesting things by accident, like this time.
Regards and thanks
Roberto
Very well done!
I actually go bezerk with login functionalities on many of the SAP sites. Let it be SCN, JAM etc. So yes a user friendly solution which is inline with the expectations one might have from year 2013 web app really deserves attention!
Carsten, I dread the day when IT comes to replace my 3 year old laptop and I might lose the remembered passwords, etc. In the era when we can logon with Google account to Yahoo, one would think that at least a single user ID should be good for the whole SAP public site line up.
You can store your SAP Single Signon (where Single is any value greater than 1) certificates in your browser (you probably know that anyway 🙂 ), but you can also export these certificates.
Part of my regular personal maintenance (along with showering, shaving etc) is back these up to USB / Dropbox / gDrive / SkyDrive etc, and one of the first things I do on a new site is mail the file to myself@newsite.com and import them again.
hth
Thank you for collecting these ideas into this blog. I must confess I'm feeling kind of "meh" when I'ts about the idea place since I haven't (yet) experienced anybody of its deciders being sensible towards good ideas... but maybe it's just me... anyway... I promoted most of the ideas you collected here and hope somebody will care.
Agree with you.
Maybe you should read this: http://scn.sap.com/thread/3356385
Good luck 😉
Congratulations for those improvement ideas of discussions.
I see lots of answers with lots of topics left behind by owners.
Regards
Excuse me.
"I can has ideas" ? 😯
Osvaldo, the original line was I can has cheezburger. Sorry, I should've explained that it's a cultural reference, not my poor grammar skills. 🙂
Hahahaha lol, all right. It's good for me learning something new 😉
I don't know about "Cheezburger". Sorry, I'm from Argentine. It does not exist here.
And, about grammar skills, don't worry.
I've got poor english skills 😉
And maybe you should edit the post, and make a note-call (or something like "Title*") and a post-note to the CheezBurger.
Regards!
Osvaldo - yes, I agree and done. Thanks for pointing this out!
Do you mean that Argentine has such good steaks that you don't make cheeseburgers? 😉
Thank you, everyone, for the feedback and for voting on the ideas!
It's sad that the Idea Place still seems to hold the reputation of "the place were ideas go to die" despite the efforts made by the team supporting it. Seeing that there are so many ideas in the 'Delivered' status I wondered if somehow I missed a memo on major improvements implemented on SCN. However, when browsing through the list I've noticed some ideas with even negative votes and soon realised that those ideas were really just closed with no action (e.g. functionality already existed). Not sure such "creative accounting" is projecting the right image. Wouldn't it be more helpful to everyone to see a list of the ideas that were truly implemented by making a change?
Also there are only 300+ ideas in the SCN session, so it shouldn't be so difficult to see even all of them in a list (without much detail or fancy buttons). But instead the only options I found were to scroll (very slowly) the pages by 5 or 10 items. Even the RSS feed is "for this page", what sense does it even make?
Oh well. At least we can hope it gets better from there. 🙂
Hi Jelena,
Thanks for promoting a few interesting ideas here. And you mentioned a "15 votes" limit for an idea to be considered by SAP. Where did you get this figure from? Do you happen to find a document that would provide more transparency on the process about what happens once an idea has been submitted?
Cheers,
Nick.
Hi Nicolas, Oxana Noa Zubarev had blogged about it: The SCN Innovation and Enhancements Idea Session Guidelines
Jelena Perfiljeva, excellent idea to blog about good ideas
Excellent! Thanks for pointing this out.
What actually happened to your idea about renaming "Report Abuse" to "Alert Moderator"?
I can't even find it anymore in the Idea place.
Indeed!
Here is what the link to this idea used to be:
https://ideas.sap.com/ct/ct_a_view_idea.bix?c=8A060447-ED55-41EB-905E-C077161D66AC&idea_id=22EA4BD7-89C6-4BE2-A65A-DAE4451A33BB
But it has been moved, and as far as I'm concerned I do not have to right to see it anymore. The same occurs with many other ideas.
Maybe it's been moved to be reviewed? 😕
Mmm that's scary. 😛
+1 to post the new ideas in a blog's post to "remember", just in case the idea desappear without a trace.
Regards
Found it - it's 'Under Review'. Looks like the link has changed for some reason, rather strange:
https://ideas.sap.com/ct/ct_a_view_idea.bix?c=8E39AA3E-80C0-40DA-A91F-216247784509&idea_id={56194440-DAD0-4490-97A9-D44FB7295E15}
There is a filter by status in the 'Idea session' that could be useful sometimes.
Hi Jelena,
For your information here is the error message I get when following the link you just provided:
So I guess this idea is no longer publicly visible... or sapideaplace is facing issues.
Cheers,
Nick.
the link does not work for me - maybe only the owner can see it
SO SORRY
Your request could not be processed.
I searched by user, but I can only see 4 ideas from you
Just added the } at the end now, but the message just turned into:
You do not have access to this area.
Please click here to go back
Yes, you're right - I can see it when I logged on, but it's not visible otherwise. Very strange, it shouldn't be like that...
Maybe Oxana Noa Zubarev or Kuhan Milroy could clarify why the idea became "invisible"?
Hi Jelena,
New category was created for ideas targeting specific groups- moderators, space editors and mentors. I posted a blog about it: http://scn.sap.com/community/moderators-and-editors/blog/2013/07/09/announcement-scn-innovations-moderators-mentors-and-space-editors-category-in-idea-place-is-now-opened in the Moderators and Space Editors space and I used Mentors tags to increase visibility. Please let me know if you can't see it.
Ideas that were related to moderation, SE, mentors practices were moved to the new category. If a person is in the Mentors, Moderators or Space Editors groups s/he should be able to see these. Please let me know If you are able to see these ideas. The link is provided in the blog and can be found here.
In addition all original posters received an automated email notifying about the move.
Please note that following the move the votes count was reset, however we can still see who voted and count number of votes quickly.
Jürgen L you should be able to see this idea as you are in the group. Please follow this link: https://ideas.sap.com/ct/ct_a_view_idea.bix?c=8E39AA3E-80C0-40DA-A91F-216247784509&idea_id=56194440-DAD0-4490-97A9-D44FB7295E15
Thanks,
Oxana
No, I have no access
I receive this message, no difference if I logged in before or not:
You do not have access to this area.
Please click here to go back
Hmm: people like me cannot see your blog post, and they can no longer follow a few ideas they voted for... So now I'm wondering what secret you wanna keep that deserves so much precaution.
Hi Nicolas,
No secrets 🙂 . This idea session was created in order to have a place to better organize ideas and proposed new practices for moderators, space editors and mentors. These ideas have a direct impact on these groups, thus should be collected in one place.
I apologize for the inconvenience caused with the idea that you've created. I moved it right away to the original category.
Thanks,
Oxana
Oxana, thanks for a response.
I can't see the blog either ('unauthorized' error), but in any case not sure I understand why that particular idea had to be restricted to the moderator area. This button is visible to everyone, hence the idea affects every SCN member. It should still be visible to everyone, not just the moderators. Also found the Nicolas's idea there ('Do not show locked questions when filtering on "Open questions"'), why was it moved? No wonder it has 0 votes/comments - no one can see it now...
This doesn't seem right to "hide" the ideas that are related to the site's main functionality, not just strictly to the moderation features. Looks like an another review might be in order...
Hi Jelena,
Thank you for your response. I think that in this case the idea can be in both categories, but of course it is for the owner to decide. Since there is no damage and the votes are being kept, ideas can be moved. With your permission I moved the Rename "Report Abuse" button as "Alert Moderator" back to the SCN Innovation and Enhancements category. Another idea that could be in both categories was identified and I'll reach out to the poster to ask for his opinion. As for the blog, I've posted it in the category under the News section. Please let me know if you can find it.
Thanks,
Oxana
I can find the idea when I log on myself to the idea place and search for it, but with clicking your link and auto logon I get the error like in Nicolas reply
You just made me smile Jelena Perfiljeva 😘 , doesn't deserve anything less than 5 stars!
I hope that TPTB take a note of this and implement (read: deliver) a few 😉
Cheers,
Suhas
Well done Jelena.
You have put all good ideas in single blog.
Regards,
Jitendra
Excellent! A good compilation and a good intro as well. You got me at the picture. I have to say I was also puzzled by the title, I guess I don't spend enough time watching cute videos. Instead it's trains, trucks, airplanes, etc with my son.
Cheers, I'm about to open a bottle of beer now.
Laure
I just wanted to push this blog back into sight. ^^
Some of the ideas featured by Jelena got a lot of votes and are safely over the needed 15 votes-limit. But others still wait to get enough promotion to jump that high.
Also a lot of new ideas found their way into the idea place. So please go to the idea place SCN session (best with the status filter on "Submitted") and VOTE VOTE VOTE, people! 🙂
Sadly the last mentioned idea Rename "Report Abuse" button as "Alert Moderator" seems to be still/again in the moderator category and therefor not accessable for normal users to promote.
GO COMMUNITY!
Hi Steffi,
Thanks for raising the awareness 🙂
Rename "Report Abuse" button as "Alert Moderator" idea was moved, but the link that you are using leads to a page where users are requested to click on another link to get there: "This idea has been moved. Click here to view this idea." Please let me know if you don't see this.
Best,
Oxana
Hello Oxana,
yes, I see it. But after clicking the link I land on the startpage of the idea place. 🙁
Okay. I just clicked on the link in your post and with that one it called up the idea. oO It's just the link from idea place that sends me to the startpage. Strange.
Thanks Oxana! 🙂 Funky linking is keeping me on my toes. 😀
Thanks for the bump, Steffi! 🙂 I updated the blog and added a link to that idea.
You are very welcome! 🙂
Congratulation Jelena, 2 delivered ideas on 1 day.
This deserves an extra badge in my opinion, maybe with the "Helper" of Gyro Gearloose on it
Thank you, Jürgen! Just shows that we can get things done when working together. Unless it's a 'dislike button'... 🙂
Hi Jelena,
Good Day!
This blog definitely reach and get to SCN Members attention. Nicely written and I feel different while reading this blog. Good comparison of some of our SCN members.
Cheers!
Regards,
Hari Suseelan
All your idea are belong to us. 😉
Jelena,
Congratulations on the Delivered Ideas. Please promote this Idea in your blog too:
Pre-moderate blogs and documents for members with less than Gold status
Kishan, I just demoted your idea. I know dozens of people that scarcely contribute, but when they do, it's top notch content. On the contrary I know quite a bunch with Platin or higher who mostly contribute Bull****. There is no measurable technical parameter for a decision whether somebody has 'matured' enough to contribute without pre-moderation. IMHO either enable pre-moderation for everybody and manually disable it or leave everything as it is and keep reporting do-needful-blogs.
I see what you did there, Christopher o_o
Lukas,
Firstly I would like to clarify that the idea posted in Idea Place belongs to Jelena, but having said that I would like to add that if this Idea wasn't already there I would have raised it.
Secondly, everybody is entitled to their opinion so yeah I respect your opinion and understand the reasons behind it. You are right about the Platinum level members posting bull. In fact it is one such member who's the reason behind this rant and voting-up the Idea in the first place. But then this member wouldn't have reached that Platinum level if we were in the old Jive platform and gamification was still an unknown entity.
The old Jive platform more-or-less gave a better picture of who was eligible to blog without a pre-moderation hurdle. But now everybody and anybody can reach a platinum level simply by "liking" posts and comments! What's worse is that SCN has raised the bar for what is an acceptable blog and what is not. This has opened the flood gates for the point-hoarders. There is a lot of redundant and useless information in this area.
One simple thing that can be done is to remove points for Likes and see how these blogs fare in popularity.
Solid case. I just wish everyone on SDN was this sensible! 😆