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LSMW migration with IDOC method and using IDOC as source Part2: Import

This is the second part of my blog about LSMW migration with IDOC method

The first part can be found here: LSMW migration with IDOC method  and using IDOC as source  Part1: Extract by ALE

The business case: Data migration with SAP as legacy system. Many companies use already SAP for several years. Companies buy other companies. Both run SAP. The decision is taken to consolidate many SAP systems into just one. Example case: vendor master data

Challenge: the legacy system has data for plants that were shut down, closed companies and abandoned purchasing and sales organisations.

I do not explain any single LSMW step in this blog in deep detail as I described it in in my other blogs:

LSMW Material master by BAPI method – Part 1

LSMW Material master by BAPI method – Part 2

So i am just focusing here on the difference to these other blogs and the specific setup of ALE distribution and IDOC import method

The homepage of LSMW can be found here in SCN at http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-26158

In that document you can find the links to the general documentation in help.sap.com too: SAP Library – Legacy System Migration Workbench

Step 1 – Maintain object attributes

As this blog has the focus on IDOC import method put the radio button to IDOC and enter the same message type and Basic type that you used for your extract via ALE (see first part of this blog), Message type CREMAS with Basic type CREMAS05

You may get a warning message telling you that you have to activate IDOC inbound processing. I explained this activation in

LSMW Material master by BAPI method – Part 1

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Step 2 – Maintain source structure

This is the painful part of this IDOC to IDOC method, as SAP does not give any entry aid or option to copy.

First open a new session and execute WE30 – enter your Basic type CREMAS05 as object name and click display

SAP presents the structure of this IDOC:

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Now in LSMW step 2 click create icon and can copy and paste from this WE30 structure to your source structure definition. Just do not forget to add a Z in front of any segment name, to make the source name different from the target name.

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After the first segment is defined, put the cursor onto this segment and click again the NEW icon.

SAP answers with a pop-up asking you if the next segment is at the same level or lower level.

Make your choice and continue until the WE30 structure and your source structure look equal (except that your source structure has always a Z in the beginning of the name)

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Step 3 – Maintain source fields

In this step SAP helps you a lot, you can copy the fields from the repository

Place the cursor on a structure, then click the copy icon.

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Select Copy from Data Repository

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Enter the structure name (without Z) in the table name field and click continue

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SAP copied all fields with their definition to your source structure

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Now coming to the tricky part.

The IDOC has some overhead info in the beginning, before it comes to the fields MSGFN and LIFNR

Further, if you look at the IDOC, it is just a text file that looks chaotic, hence you have to tell your LSMW where it has to start to apply the mask.

Yes your read correctly,  your field definition is nothing else than a mask that is laid over the data in your source file

I circled the structure names that I could identify in the IDOC.

The IDOC (your source) is an outbound IDOC, because of that the structure name is slightly different, the second character in the structure name defines whether it is  inbound or outbound. The general data structure of a vendor master inbound is called E1LFA1M, while outbound is named E2LFA1M 

This E2LFA1M name is a good starting point for your mask

But directly after E2LFA1M the content in the IDOC is neither MSGFN  nor LIFNR.

The vendor number in this example is 520481, since the vendor number field is 10 long it is listed as 0000520481 in the file,

directly before LIFNR field is the MSGFN field (compare with your field definition above) this is the 005.

And all other data between E2LFA1M and 0050000520481 (marked yellow) is not needed for the migration.

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But how can we omit this data?

And how do we tell SAP that it shall start reading at E2LFA1M?

For this we have to define 2 more fields at the beginning of our source fields in each source structure

Let us call the first field IDENT, short for identifier. And the second FILLER, as it used to fill the space between our identifier and the MSGFN field.

Go into table maintenance, position the cursor at the first field and click 2 times insert line icon.

enter in the first line field name IDENT type C lenght 7, because the word E2LFA1M has 7 characters

in the second line enter FILLER with type C and a length of 56, which are the number of characters starting from the first position after E2LFA1M until  content 005 of field MSGFN begins.

If you have for example a segment name that is e.g. 11 characters long, then you define the IDENT field with 11 and the filler with only 52 characters.

Back on the overview of fields just double click the IDENT field to maintain further details, the “Identifying Field Content”.

Here enter E2LFA1M, the segment name that could be found in the IDOC. SAP will read the content of the file until it finds the same word like maintained in  “Identifying Field Content”. Then SAP will apply the mask with fields and move the the content to the xxx.READ file when executing the read step later.

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Now the field structure is like this one:

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you have to do the same for each segment in your structure, of course with the specific segment name, here an example from company code data segment:

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Step 4 – Maintain structure relations

Just a click step, assign all corresponding segments of your source structure to the target structure:

Place the cursor on the segment, then click Create Relationship icon. A pop-up displays your source structure, select the corresponding and continue.

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Step 5 – Maintain field mapping and conversion rules

The next fun part, because your field names in source and target structure equal, hence you can automatically map those fields in seconds.

Select from menu Extras > Auto-field Mapping

On the pop-up select “Match Fields with the same name” , apply the rule “Transfer MOVE” and select “No confirmation” , then execute.


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After that you can focus on the fields where you have to apply different rules and need to exchange values.

From my experience much easier to do this after having all fields mapped quickly, than doing it directly.

The challenging part (certainly not for Abapers) is to exclude the abandoned data and organisations from the migration. We could have done this already with filters in the ALE customizing. But I have seen to much scope changes in the past. Hence I try to avoid extra customizing in the source system and do all exclusion in my LSMW object in the target system….with a little coding in the field mapping.

Here an example for purchasing organisation

I have a subroutine called ZXXP04IDENT, it is just a name with some logic for myself, in which I read a mapping table.

If I do not find any entry in the mapping table, then it means that this purchasing organisation is not to be migrated.

In this case I process the SKIP_RECORD function, which will just forget what the program had just read and goes to the next record.

If  a mapping was found, then I check if the existing vendor master has already data for the mapped purchasing organisation. (missed to mention that we extend vendors that are already present in the target system).

If the existing vendor has already purchasing data for this purchasing organisation, then again doing the SKIP_RECORD function. along with writing a message into the conversion log.

If the purchasing organisationdoes not yet exist in an existing vendor, then the field content is moved.

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Similar checks are performed for company code  and deletion indicator (we migrate only undeleted vendor masters)

In this content I don’t want to miss to tell you that a IDOC overwrites existing data. If you extend an existing vendor master, then you need to care that the general data is not overwritten. But you cannot just skip the segment as this will cause a Syntax error,

In that case the vendor number field LIFNR holds the vendor number of the target vendor, and all other fields in that segment have to contain a “/”  like in this example for NAME1 field:

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Step 7 – Specify files

Special in this scenario is that our source file is located in the application server instead of your local drive.

Hence you select the entry Legacy data On the R/3 server  and click New entry

Here you enter the file name (including the directory if it is not your personal directory – I have a dedicated directory in this example), unfortunately there is no F4 help to search for the file name. (it is possible if you have only one application server, and even then the application server name has to be entered in a table that is not accessible through LSWM or any customizing path – so not really worth to talk about)

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Select “No Separator” , an IDOC does not have separators. The IDOC does not have any field names, hence leave the box for “Field Names at start of file”  empty. As you defined the source fields from data repository, the field order matches with Source structure definition, so please activate this box. File type has a Record End Marker because it is a text file.

Set the Code page according to the code page that you have in the legacy system at the time you created the IDOCs by ALE.

Step 8 – Assign files

Assign your source file to each segment in the source structure

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Continue with Read data,

verify that the data is in the correct fields in step “display read data”

then convert the data,

check the converted data.

then start IDOC generation

and process the IDOCs

All those steps are  explained in detail in my blog: LSMW Material master by BAPI method – Part 2

Nothing special for IDOC import method


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      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Hello, nice article, just a question.

      When you are extracting the content of an IDoc, are u extracting 1 Vendor per 1 file?

      Ex: if u have 4000 vendors, in the end on the AS you will have 4000 files?

      Thank u very much.

      Author's profile photo Jürgen Lins
      Jürgen Lins
      Blog Post Author

      no - just 1 file with all vendors.

      The important setting is "Collect IDOCs" explained in part 1 of this blog

      Author's profile photo Alexandros Ntais
      Alexandros Ntais

      Hi Jurgen. Just one question. I am trying to do this procedure for materials.

      Do i have to define  IDENT FILLER fields in the beggining of the structure?

      Author's profile photo Jürgen Lins
      Jürgen Lins
      Blog Post Author

      Yes, this is needed for any IDOC, IDENT is needed to find the right starting point of a record and FILLER is needed to ignore the data betwen the IDENT and the first valuable data field.

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Hi Jurgen,


      I've have problem at step Start IDOC Generation and it inform is No partner exists with the name ", type".

      Please tell me must do what for this step.

      thank too much.

      Author's profile photo Jürgen Lins
      Jürgen Lins
      Blog Post Author

      It is explained in my blog LSMW Material master by BAPI method - Part 1 as mentioned in the beginning of this blog.

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Hi Jurgen,

      I did it successful.

      tks u so much.

      Author's profile photo Alexandros Ntais
      Alexandros Ntais

      Hi Jurgen,

      I am doing the same procedure for materials and it worked, but when i am trying to use it for a lot of materials, at the lsmw i have the following error:

      IDoc included in IDoc packet containing an error: transfer it
      separately

      can you please advise me what is the issue?

      thanx

      Author's profile photo Jürgen Lins
      Jürgen Lins
      Blog Post Author

      when processing the IDOCs make sure you exchange the default for package size in the selection screen  from 5 to 1

      Author's profile photo Sudhanva Joshi
      Sudhanva Joshi

      Hi Jurgen,

      In Step 2 - Maintain Source Structure, you have shown the IDoc Structure and then you have mentioned like this,

      "Now in LSMW step 2 click create icon and can copy and paste from this BD30 structure to your source structure definition"

      What do you mean by BD30 structure?

      Thanks & Regards,

      Sudhanva Joshi

      Author's profile photo Jürgen Lins
      Jürgen Lins
      Blog Post Author

      BD30 is a transaction to display the structure of an IDOC 

      As your source file is an IDOC you need to describe this source file structure, and you can take this information from BD30 for the IDOC in question.

      Author's profile photo Sudhanva Joshi
      Sudhanva Joshi

      Thanks Jurgen, But, when i hit BD30, I am able to see a t-code with description Material BOM distribution. please let me know how can this happen?

      And, I am able to see IDoc structure in WE30 as you have mentioned in the blog.

      Author's profile photo Jürgen Lins
      Jürgen Lins
      Blog Post Author

      Oops. sorry. this is a typo - Of course it should read WE30

      Thanks for reporting

      Author's profile photo Sudhanva Joshi
      Sudhanva Joshi

      Thanks for the clarification Jurgen.

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Hi Jurgen,

      If I want to send Service Contracts maybe with specification hierarchy with service masters in it, what message type i am supposed to use, or i need to customise my own message type?

      Author's profile photo Jürgen Lins
      Jürgen Lins
      Blog Post Author

      contracts are send with BLAORD message

      Author's profile photo Alexandros Ntais
      Alexandros Ntais

      Hi Jurgen,

      I am following this guide but during the lsmw idoc processing i am facing error

      IDoc included in IDoc packet containing an error: transfer it
      separately.

      Its the 1st time i see this error and searched the forum but nothing worked out. Do you have any idea about this?

      Author's profile photo Jürgen Lins
      Jürgen Lins
      Blog Post Author

      in the import processing is field for package size, reduce it from the proposed 5 to 1

      Author's profile photo Alexandros Ntais
      Alexandros Ntais

      thanks a lot!

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Hi Jurgen,


      in this guide we create outbound IDoc first, in order to create a file. and then we create inbound IDoc by LSMW to read that file. i'm wondering if it is feasible that we just use the outbound and inbound IDoc to transfer data without the intermediate file in server?

      Author's profile photo Jürgen Lins
      Jürgen Lins
      Blog Post Author

      If you just move data from one system to the other then you can certainly use ALE without going to the described approach.

      But here I described a data migration where we usually have a large bandwidth of changes, many plants going into one new plant or even one plant gets split into many, hundred of fields are having different entries in source system and target system and need to be mapped, or even determined with ABAP routines during the migration. Mappings are created during the conversion for the subsequent migration steps.

      I am right now in the middle of our biggest migration ever. My mapping table has currently 830000 mappings.

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      wow, got it, thanks for your quick reply, really appreciate it!

      Author's profile photo Jagdeep Singh Choudhary
      Jagdeep Singh Choudhary

      Thanks Jurgen !!! Can we upload open purchase order using same method of IDOCs ? does system will able to copy all long texts as well ..?

      Author's profile photo Jürgen Lins
      Jürgen Lins
      Blog Post Author

      we load purchase orders with LSMW BAPI method, which finally creates an PORDCR1 Idoc .

      I never tried purchase orders myself, but I think IDOC to IDOC should work if we could get an IDOC. The big difference is, the IDOCs for the purchase order is created from PO output, while above described method is basically based on ALE transactions. I am not aware of an ALE transaction for purchase orders, and we did not want to change existing POs in the source system to generate IDoc messages.

      Author's profile photo Jagdeep Singh Choudhary
      Jagdeep Singh Choudhary

      I understand PO output triggers the IDOC which complicates the situation .. Just want to explore if we can use any method to move over data other than going through hassle of downloading to excel and uploading back..Thanks for suggestion again !!!

      Author's profile photo Sridhar Gardas
      Sridhar Gardas

      Hi Jurgen,

       

      I followed the steps to create LSMW for IORDER idoc and no records are written at step 'READ DATA'. I am using text files as source. I do not get any errors but no dtaa is written froem read file.

      Please help.

       

      Thanks,

      Sridhar Gardas

       

      Author's profile photo Jürgen Lins
      Jürgen Lins
      Blog Post Author

      Post your question as question along with details (screenshots from steps 7, 8 and 9) in the community

      Author's profile photo SACCHIDANANDA RAMPURA SADANANDA
      SACCHIDANANDA RAMPURA SADANANDA

      Hi   Jürgen L

      How to Mass change & delete source list ...?

       

      tried using MSGFN value as 003 ,its not deleting .through LSMW Idoc method

      Thanks

      Sac

      Author's profile photo Aggeliki Nikolouzou
      Aggeliki Nikolouzou

      Hello, I run the lsmw with IDoc creation to change the planned price 1 & planned price date 1, however more unwanted fields are changing too. What may be the problem? The mapping has been made only for the fields I want to change.

      Thank you in advance.

      Author's profile photo Heinrich JHL
      Heinrich JHL

      read the last 2 paragraphs in Step 5