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SAP Inside Track DC: Obtaining More Insight on Hana One / Hana Cloud

At last week’s Inside Track DC, SAP’s Dorothee Andermann of SAP discussed SAP Hana in the Cloud.  Since I missed this at the last TechEd, I was grateful that she spoke and grateful again to John Astill for organizing this.

Please note these are my notes.  Dorothee’s session talked about how customers get Hana with out getting the infrastructure, and tried to answer the question of “why hana in the cloud?”.  She indicated that some customers just deploy cloud solutions.


Figure 1: Source: SAP

Dorothee suggested to “start innovation in the cloud”.  In reviewing the new cloud solution in EPM, only 23.1% are not considering cloud solutions, as shown in Figure 1. and only 15.4 are considering cloud.  She said the situation is evolving.


Figure 2: Source: SAP

Figure 2 shows that 23% already have a Cloud first strategy

Some use the cloud as a platform to do innovation.  Dorothee said partners are offering Hana as a hosting service, and that cloud is an extension of the hosting concept.


Figure 3: Source: SAP

Figure 3 covers th strategy.  With the acquisition of SuccessFactors, that covers SaaS.  With PaaS the offering is NetWeaver in the Cloud.

IaaS – SAP works with partners; this is not where SAP sees itself

Under Enabling on premise solution in a cloud environment, at SAPPHIRE SAP announced virtualization of Hana is available for development/test – not productive use.

SAP HANA in the Cloud


Figure 4: Source: SAP

Hana app services on Java stack, together with  Hana DB services forms the Hana cloud.  NetWeaver cloud is a subset of the Hana Cloud.

Cloud is where host their own solutions, such as Business ByDesign apps. 

SAP Hana One is on web services (AWS)

She said to show how SAP can scale, she gave an example of a retailer 3000 sales orders per day, on a 100 TB cloud.  They could upload sales data for last 10 years as a proof of concept and could run most reports on the is data in less than 3 seconds.

Dorothee said certifications available help with security and privacy


Figure 5: Source SAP

Figure 5 has been discussed elsewhere in blogs.  The concept is to get the computations on the raw data in database – this is where speed is coming

With the lightweight app service in HANA – XS, and the control flow logic provides the vision of 2 tier architecture.

Restriction note is only available in SAP-led projects.


Figure 6: Source: SAP

Figure 6 shows partners services who hosting of Hana licenses.

Hosting partners provide additional services

Dorothee said the benefit is that you get Hana running first without stressing the IT team.


Figure 7: Source: SAP

Figure 7 shows an option of a public cloud for productive use

Dorothee says it takes 10 minutes to get up & running

There are 2 restrictions – 1) 60 gig box – only upload 30 gig of compressed data = 200 to 300 gig uncompressed data 2) not regular SAP support but SAP community support

She said start ups will do this.


Figure 8: Source: SAP

The developer edition shown in Figure 8 is not for productive use.  It is “free” but you pay Amazon to use their resources.

SAP Hana Cloud Applications

Dorothee said the SAP Hana Cloud applications such as, Recalls plus ( safety alerts, toys, high chairs food), Charitra, and the Sales & Operations solution, (using an Excel plug-in for demand and resources at a company) have over 90,000 users adopted in the cloud.


Figure 9: Source: SAP

In looking at slide 9, the first question was how to integrate with on-premise? 

Today it is with a flat file, secure FTP.  She said they are planning a Data Services on Demand to do on-premise / cloud solution.


Figure 10: Source: SAP

Figure 10 being the roadmap, which the usual disclaimers apply – it is subject to change.

Dorothee said they are looking at more SaaS solutions and looking for partners/customers to build their own solutions in their own environment or NetWeaver cloud.

I think Dorothee and John for a great session and a great day.

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