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Author's profile photo Tobias Hofmann

Getting started with SUP@AWS

There was the announcement on Monday, the SUP SDK was made available, but no Sybase Unwired Platform server. Without SUP, the SDK makes little sense. So I had to wait. There was the usual marketing where people talk about a not available product, the intention. Then, after hitting constantly refresh on the SAP Developer page for mobility the text changed:

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Yes, the AWS image is ready! Reading the step-by-step document (while reading, replace HANA with SUP) I was able to get a SUP instance in 38 Minutes. It started with this tweet (via web)

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Accepting the license is not a problem, but you have to provide your AWS ID. So: I still had to create an AWS account. After entering the credit card information I received a nice phone call from a female computer voice and the Amazon account was ready.

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I could start creating my private SUP instance

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As you can see, what you get is Windows 2008 R2 and SUP 2.1.3. After waiting a few minutes for AWS to create the instance:

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Everything was set up and green. As great as this is, the problem with a remote machine is that you still have to log on remotely. In this case it means by remote desktop (RDP). Something blocked by most corporate proxies I ever had the pleasure to work with. In my case this means that to the costs for running the AWS image I also have to add the costs of a 3G connection (59,90R$ / month). I really hope an on premise SUP version will be available soon.

That solved, the remote logon worked and I was presented with this nice desktop (1via web)

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Time needed: 39 Minutes, including AWS account creation. I think it took me longer to install the SDK on my laptop.

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      Author's profile photo Hendrik Neumann
      Hendrik Neumann

      Nice blog! Pretty cool idea to use twitter as a stopwatch 😉

      Now I'll have to find a spare 39 minutes..

      Best Regards

      Hendrik

      Author's profile photo John Moy
      John Moy

      Good job Tobias,

      39 minutes - I think it took much longer to install my local instance (when I had one) earlier in the year - this illustrates one of the benefits of AWS.

      Pity about the corporate firewall problem.  Where I work, they also offer a separate public WiFi which is unrestricted.  That said, most of my work with AWS instances is in the evening hours from home.  I am wondering if SAP is targeting independent devs, that these people might choose to work with these AWS builds from their home office, or after hours if they have a day job.  For those smaller shops who focus on app development full time, I would expect them to have the appropriate connectivity arranged.  The problem is with accessing this service if you are in a big corporate - but if that corporate is serious about getting into the apps business, then I would expect them to purchase on premise licenses, or at least provide some way to connect to AWS (eg by funding your 3G card).  Just my opinion anyway.

      Thanks for taking the time to share your post.

      John

      Author's profile photo Tobias Hofmann
      Tobias Hofmann
      Blog Post Author

      John,

      that the image comes with pre-installed SUP is the only benefit of AWS. Looking at the constant connection loss and crappy 3G connection (thanks VIVO) and that I have constantly switch between LAN and 3G sums up in a greater time loss compared to the time needed to install SUP.

      Without a connection to SUP @ AWS it will be hard to demonstrate SUP: no LAN, no 3G, no internet connection. WIth a local SUP installation someone can at least use a simulator to show the application, given that you won't just show the offline capability.

      But you are right, it'd be nice to know who is the actual focus group for that offering. It cannot be just independent or companies, as the real pool of ideas is inside companies, the people that exactly know what is missing. Or is SAP thinking that everybody has unrestricted access?

      Author's profile photo Simon Kemp
      Simon Kemp

      Thanks for sharing Tobias! Now you have it, you just have to work out what to do with it! 😛 If you want to develop a Blackberry or Windows Mobile 6 app you are good to go... sorry I am being a bit facetious... I look forward to hearing about how you find using SUP to develop apps. Personally I am most interested in the HWC (and PhoneGap) and not so much in native apps.

      Thanks again,
      Simon

      Author's profile photo Former Member
      Former Member

      Great stuff.. Thanks Tobias Hofmann

      Vasanth S