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The protagonist in this blog is Sambo who recently came in the SDN/BPX world and shares his experience.  Past: Sambo has been working in APO for quite some time, having experience in both implementation and support projects. He had been using Service Marketplace and going through Consulting notes to understand nuances of the application. Also is a good source but then it’s a ocean and for one on a life-raft becomes very difficult to navigate (or even finding direction). So he Googled for his issues and came across other internet sites (ittoolbox, saptips) etc. Then one fine day he got a mail from SDN “Your S-user Account has been upgraded”. He has heard about SDN earlier – a great place where SAP Developers collaborate with lot of code and ABAP geeks exchanging ideas. Is it a place for so-called functional consultants? Anyway he decided to check it out anyway. So he logged in ……  Present: Sambo is now hooked to SDN. He logs to SDN naturally like he logs on to his email client. Takes a look at new Blogs that are newly posted. Checks out his Forums of interest and if there is an unanswered question tries to answer based on his experience and some experimenting in the system. So he started getting points to the forum replies. The day he got his first points – wow he was on cloud nine. Someone else (whom he does not know) has found his response appropriate and recognized it. Slowly and surely his points built up and he passed the half-century, then century mark and so on. Each point brought him more self-confidence and also taught him new stuff even within areas he thought he knew. Moreover just by going through the forums he could learn about issues and topics which he had little knowledge, thereby building his competency. He stopped Googling for SAP related issues instead searching (or should we say Trexing) within SDN.  One day he saw a new link BPX Community and before long checked that out. Its a different story that he is still confused about the BPX role, the frameworks and concepts being discussed there. But then there is so much to explore and learn. His recent finding is Wiki and the SCM Topic. He is waiting to contribute to the different pages that have sprung up recently.   Future: Who knows what holds in future for SDN. Sambo came up with two ideas – maybe long shot ones but maybe true out in future. One is the points system in SDN. It is a great way to recognize the contributions made. While it is not a currency, it may become so in future in a subtle way. Maybe the resumes in future will mention the number of points. This is by far one of the best ways of recommendation. The other idea – well Distributed Computing is the future. So who knows when you logon to SDN a little bit of your computer resources gets used for processing the SDN related stuff. Maybe that’s why SDN is a bit slow.  So that has been the experience of a newbie to SDN so far.
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  1. Sambo is a great person and very helpful.

    I bet you he is very very enthusiastic and by my experience he had a way to solve all my issues.

    I am very proud to have such a great mentor and above all a friend like him.

    Thank you sambo.

    1. Former Member

      you seem not to be aware that this is a global place. Not only physically but also culturally.

      Not everyone on this globe knows your specific countrie’s bad words or expressions and doesn’t have to.

      I am reading a lot of Amrican literature and have never ever heard of ‘Mambo’. Since I haven’t googled yet I still don’t know what it means in YOUR CULTURE.

      Moreover, the author quiet obviously was talking of himself and I guess it was not in his intention to tage himself with a horrible expression.

      So, just calm down, tell us people from other cultures/places/… that you’d prefer not to use that name and maybe why.

      Or do you have a special program to check every text for it’s global acceptibility? What about ‘Gfrast’? Is that good? bad? Bad but acceptable?

      my 2 cents,

      1. Former Member
        “I am reading a lot of Amrican literature and have never ever heard of ‘Mambo’.”

        Well…That’s because “Mambo” is a kind of tropical music -:P You change the “S” for an “M” -;)

        Still…You’re right…Not all the words in all the countries got the same meanings…Not even in Spanish…There are some common words in Perú, that can’t be said on Argentina or in Colombia…



      2. David Halitsky
        Anton –

        That is double-talk, for the following reason. 

        As a citizen of the United States, I am EXPECTED to know that “w*g” is not an acceptable term when referring to people born in countries East of the Suez Canal.  And if I used this term and pleaded “ignorance”, it would make no difference whatsoever.  I would be immediately accused of being the usual kind of “ugly American”, insensitive to other cultures.

        By the same token, citizens of other countries are expected to know what cannot be used in a board that is widely read in the United States.

        Or are you suggesting a double-standard?

        Are you suggesting that US citizens should somehow be more aware and more sensitive than citizens of other countries?

        Finally, it is a very sad fact that if blacks were represented in greater numbers at SDN, everyone at SDN would be more sensitive to terms that racially offend them.

        Sorry, this is not a “calm-down” matter, for all of the reasons stated above.


        1. Former Member
          in my reply quiet obviously I did neither promote insensitivity in general nor did I plead for special standards for US citizens. I think that’s what you *want* to read for whatever reason.

          I asked you to please calm down and tell the author in an appropriate tone that his, most probably unintentional, choice of character name might hurt people elswhere for whichever reasons.


          1. David Halitsky
            Sometime in the future, without telling you when, I will post a post to SDN that uses some offesnive term or name in Hindi or some other Prakrits language.  Since my first cousin is married to an Indian, I am sure he can pick a good one that will really “ruffle feathers” over there.

            And then let’s see what happens …

            Let’s see how much slack I’m cut …

            Best regards

            1. Former Member
              David you are assuming that he did this intentionally and not giving him a chance to reply – he’s in a different time zone and multiple time zones away from you so let’s just calm down.

              Now by your statement here it’s obvious you would be doing it intentionally which in itself is not exactly acceptable.

          2. Former Member
            I think you both need to calm down, now I am American and I did not in a million years come close to that being a problem – and to be honest I’ve never heard of it as such.

            In Ireland it refers to a sandwich, it’s a form of material arts, it’s a restaurant chain, it’s a character in a book and it’s an ethnic slur (Wikipedia rules!) the slur originates from the book which was in an Indian setting.

            Now Somnath as you are reading all of these comments to your blog – I can’t force you to change it as it obviously is not offensive to you (you would not have used it) nor to others who posted comments to your blog however I do ask you make a consideration considering it has apparently greatly upset one of your other readers.

            Craig Cmehil
            SDN Community Manager

        2. Former Member

          – If you claim to know (and expected to know) all common derogatory terms used in all other cultures/languages I am speechless. But such a ‘claim’ is not entirely unexpected from you.

          If you think an SDNer needs to know SAMBO’s connotations before he qualifies to post here, that is silly.

          In all likelihood the author didn’t know, and can correct it now that he knows. No need to bring ‘American Vs others’ spin here.

  2. Marilyn Pratt
    I’d like to address a number of things in the chronological order I encountered them:
    1)     I opened up my RSS alert for a quick look at stuff labeled BPX content and was interested to find a blog which addressed a SCM topic and was called: Demystifying CIF.  Nice, thought, I, someone taking the initiate to connect the dots between applications that we have placed under the “BPX” taxonomy and supplying SCM expertise. It enjoyed the entertaining writing style and the storyboard approach.
    2)     I saw that there was a  SCM->CIF wiki link.  This is getting even cooler…more initiative and content for application consultants.  Nicer, thought I, let me suggest rewarding said user for this content. I further click into: My Home > Supply Chain Management > … > SCM Advanced Planner & Optimizer > CIF
    See lots of pages added by author, so I go to check out the business card.
    3)     I see the author is Somnath Manna and I am further intrigued to see other blogs or articles.
    4)     I find the recent blog Journey of an SDNer.  I notice the name of the hero, and think, isn’t interesting that different names mean things in different cultures.  I make a note to “ping” the author as, I myself had a slip like that this very week, when writing about treasure on SDN and I called it  “booty” like as in gold pirate treasure and then was forced to do a lookup on wikipedia only to find myself very embarrassed.  Note to self: warn Somnath privately (like someone did for me).
    5)     I then read in the blog that Somnath is  confused about BPX role.  Note to self: we had better have more conversation with community about how community can help us articulate this role more effectively because confusion is a recurring theme when speaking about moving to a process centric way of thinking.
    6)     Lastly, I read comments to Somnath and was so sorry that all his wonderful SCM contributions were overlooked when someone concentrated on the unfortunate character naming mistake. So my question is did anyone say bravo to Somnath Manna for his community spirit, his great content on SCM and his fresh approach?

    I would love to continue a public conversation about what is and isn’t relevant to a BPX and why describing the domain of SCM and enriching that content is helpful….

      1. David Halitsky
        One “enough” from the SDN Community Manager will always be “enough” for me. 

        Sorry this got out of hand, but you know, in an odd kind of way, it’s a testimony to the progress of the US toward racial equality and harmony that you’re young enough to have no knowledge of the controversy surrounding the name.  If you knew about it, then it would mean that the wounds are taking even longer to heal in the US.

        And BTW, I’m the least politically-correct person you’ll ever meet.  But at least three members of my generation died in Alabama to achieve the kind of progress that has resulted in your not knowing about the issue at hand here.

  3. Former Member
    if Donal Trump can give a second chance to the poor Miss USA for her “wild” life in the Big Apple, maybe we ought to believe in second chances as well. Let’s all have a second chance, shall we?

    By the way, on a totally different note, how is SAP going to get 10,000 customers on BPP for end of 2007? That’s what I’m interested about.

  4. Somnath Manna Post author
    First of all I apologise (if apology can be granted) for my goofup in naming the protagonist of this blog. It only gives me a chance to improve my English writing capabilities since everything now onwards have to be in third language with no common nouns (names) used.
    Secondly thanks to all the posts here – I believe the visibility to SCM-Wiki increased which would benefit us all.
    Thirdly I have learnt a lot in the last hour about international culture by going through Wikipedia and the links.
    I would like to state I never knew about any negative/derogatory meaning of the name used. It happens to be name of a character in my 4th standard text which stuck me (maybe due to phonetically similar to my name). The naming was purely unintentional and not to hurt anyone.
    Happy holidays!
    1. Former Member
      Somnath, no need to apologize – apologies are for when someone does something wrong and yes the name was offensive to some for you not and others not. Yes culture and acceptance should be key but you can not be expected to know that a name such as this one  could be considered so wrong for some – in Ireland it is used as slang for a type of sandwich – hopefully we have all learned a lesson about tolerance and understanding as we close out this year.

      Keep up the great work!


    2. David Halitsky
      you make a key point about how we all can avoid misunderstandings like this in the future. 

      I don’t disagree with your decision to post using a fictional character to make the points you wanted to make. 

      The problem is when any of us, not necessarily you, gives the character a name that is basically from a culture which is not our own. 

      Because as you point out, we don’t know all the meanings surrounding the name we’ve chosen to use unless the name is from our own culture. 

      So it would have been perfectly appropriate for you to use a well-known name from the children’s literature of your own country, like “Birbal” in the book available from this site:


      And it would also be appropriate to append a little note at the end of your post indicating why you chose this name (or another name from traditional children’s stories, if you don’t like “Birbal”. 

      That way, we’d all appreciate the character more because we’d understand something about a different culture that we didn’t know before.
      In closing, I’d like to say that I personally look forward to more chapters in the story of your young friend’s pilgrimage and hope this incident has not discouraged you from continuing the tale.

  5. Somnath Manna Post author

    Grins and some tears while reading through the comments on one of my first blogs in SDN (okay now its SCN). Interesting to see one of the user ids changed to community.user (what is that Craig).

    Marilyn even though you retired from your professional SAP life you still remain and inspiration after close to a decade of knowing you. 

    Finally djh for stirring up all the comments … it only made me “famous” THANK YOU!

    HAPPY NEW YEAR WISHES … signing out for 2015.



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