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You have a workflow question such as who has built an ESS workflow and what needs to be taken into account? Just pop ESS workflow into the entry field and press the search button. Updated on Thanksgiving day

Google will come up with more than ten pages of hits. Yes more than T-E-N pages. This is all thanks to the collaborative efforts of a teeming workflow community, eager to learn and share their knowledge.

I admit that it is a shame we haven’t been able to entice this SAP workflow community over to SDN, but the MIT forum was simply there first and its users have got used to the e-mail interface. However, searching the forum from the comfort of SDN is still a great step forward.

If you look closely at the results you’ll see that out o the twenty to thirty posts a day there are far more answers than questions which may seem a little strange at first. That’s just a symptom of workflow engineering in general where there is usually more than one way of solving a problem and it’s a matter of swings and roundabouts which you choose. It’s not just a matter of personal preferences, either, but of company preferences as well. For example it can be about how a particular release strategy or escalation process is handled and how technology issues, such as e-mail notifications or portal integration are handled.

So many thanks, MIT, for leading the way all those years ago. And many thanks to the multi-talented and ever-patient Sue Keohan for making this a success. The search tip comes from Athur Krishna – such a simple but effective idea.

BTW, to find this blog just search for “workflow forum”.

Happy hunting.

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  1. Alan,

    This is a great feature for many SDN users to find out about Workflow.  Kudos for taking the next big step forward.  I am sure the many subscribers to SAP-WUG will now be encouraged to register and use SDN.  Thanks for taking the time and effort to put this together.  Just think of the synergies!
    Sue

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  2. Harald Reiter
    Thanks a lot for bringing this to our attention – this is really helpful!
    I would still prefer to have a WF forum here on SDN – not because of the points and ranking – but to have a single tool/UI.
    WF and also UWL are hot topics and rather complex when you deal with custom requirements and I always appreciate any help I can get.
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    1. Alan Rickayzen Post author
      Absolutely, Harald. The reason I wrote this blog is to enable everyone to query the workflow forum from the heart of the SAP development community (sdn).
      I’ve bookmarked the permalink so that I can fire off a query whenever I like.
      We’ve often discussed migrating to this forum (or other web forums before SDN started) but the bottom line is that the quality of the forum is only upheld by enabling busy workflow specialists who are on the road a lot to post offline.
      BTW, google returned over 50 pages of UWL posts – it’s HOT!
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    2. Hi Harald,
      Of course, searching through the SAP-WUG archives (via SDN, thanks Alan!) is a great way to find out what’s been posted, but if you want to pose a workflow question yourself, I can offer you a free subscription :).

      Just visit:
      http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug

      And yes, SDN would be an excellent place to host this forum – the subscribers are all SAP workflow developers, but they truly do need the ‘push’ functionality.  Many, myself included, just don’t have the time to go to a web site to look for questions.  If we push it into subscriber’s mailboxes, then more people read and answer the questions.  Personally, I can’t wait for SDN to handle this functionality as then I will be relieved of administrator/moderator/mom duties on the list, which is a joy to do, but still very time-consuming.
      Regards,
      Sue

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  3. Susan Keohan
    Hi Alan,

    I took a great leap and actually edited some HTML on the SAP-WUG public page.  The page now contains a link to the SDN page to allow searches through the SAP-WUG Archives (since MIT and Mailman don’t provide very helpful search capabilities).  Not knowing HTML, I stumbled a bit, but was helped along by our old friend, Butch McNally of Eastman Chemical, and ASUG BITI Leader extraordinaire.

    I hope this is no violation of rules.  The public page with the link is at

    http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug

    and is the link I send out when people try to post to the group who are not subscribed.  It’s also appended to the bottom of each mail message distributed by Mailman.

    Cheers,
    Sue

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  4. Daniel Black
    The Google link is not showing up properly on the SDN BLOG page.

    I copied the HTML and launch the page from my desktop but the search does not seem to work.

    “ESS workflow” does not return any hits.

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    1. Alan Rickayzen Post author
      Hi Daniel,
      Thanks for pointing this out.
      Unfortunatly this blog seems to have been corrupted and in addition the google search has stopped working.

      I won’t delete this just yet in case this is simply a temporary situation.
      Best regards,
      Alan

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    2. Alan Rickayzen Post author
      Hi Daniel,
      Thanks for pointing this out.
      Unfortunatly this blog seems to have been corrupted and in addition the google search has stopped working.

      I won’t delete this just yet in case this is simply a temporary situation.
      Best regards,
      Alan

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  5. Susan Keohan
    Hi Daniel, Alan,

    I too noticed that the Google link wasn’t working, but in the mean time, for those interested, just go to http://www.google.com, and type in
    site:mailman.mit.edu sap-wug ‘your search term’.

    Hopefully, some day soon, we can migrate over the the new BPM forum!

    Regards,
    Sue

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  6. Bob Schmidt
    I’ve been trying to search the archives using the directions shown above and it does not seem to be working.  Is anyone else having similar issues?

    Regards,
    Bob

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    1. Alan Rickayzen Post author
      Hi Bob,

      The perils of publishing 🙁

      It seems that soon after publishing this, SDN disabled the ability to add html code to blogs to make SDN more secure so this blog no longer worked. I embedded the code in a local html file on my desktop and it works fine. However, it seems that MIT is no longer indexing the mails via google so the mails from September onwards don’t appear.

      However, the last five years of posts includes many useful answers so I’ll ask Sue if we can include this form on the SAP-WUG homepage.

      I’ll update my blog to avoid misleading anyone.

      Best regards,
      Alan
      PS: Don’t forget the useful FAQ to workflow from the user group at:

      SAP Business Workflow FAQ

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