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“Where are my points?” It seams like this is the biggest frustration that SDN is giving you Webloggers and we understand, you go through the effort to write something helpful even with screen shots and links (hopefully with the tag target=”_blank” for external). Fight with the ancient editor, post it and even get good feedback – and then nothing for days.

I heard some say it takes up to three weeks until the points finally arrive. That must have been reverse warp time and I apologize.

From now on Instant Gratification at least the 40 base points will be given automatically as soon as you set your post to final. What a relief 🙂

To make sure that the points are posted to the right development area category we added one more drop down field when creating your Weblog post: Points Development Area. You can select only one. Therefore a Weblog post can be listed in different development areas of SDN, but the points count only in one. Pretty straight forward.

Yes, we will still go over the Weblogs and give extra points for exceptional ones. We will try to do this once a week.

Of course we have better things to do then rechecking points for posts. Therefore only in exceptional cases send us an email if you think we have not giving you enough points for your work.

Enjoy the new functionality.

Bonus: I was asked to present at the   2005 National Youth Leadership Forum on the 30th of March about work and life and stuff. It should be an interactive session, so I created a group Weblog called Good to Know where I am collecting things that are good to know for 13 year olds. If you have a link or two post a comment.

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  1. Guru Subramanian B
    Hi Mark,
            Its a great move from SDN to award 40 points instantly for Blogs.

            Any such moves for tutorials/articles ?
    You will be knowning that it takes more than 2 weeks to get points for tutorials/articles posted in SDN.Similar move towards tutorials will definitely be a  boon :)).

    Best Regards,
    B.Guru Subramanian.

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  2. Most articles submitted to SDN go through a workflow where some subject matter expert checks them for quality and relevance. Then our editors proof read and provide copy editing services for the articles, and it usually takes 2 weeks (and sometimes more depending on the workload) to get them published.
    With a strongly growing community of contributors, SDN has to ensure quality standards for its audience. We will continue to strive to provide a higher signal to noise ratio in our article repository.
    But rest assured, as soon as an article gets published on SDN, you will immediately be awarded your points!
    Cheers, Pranav
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  3. Hi Mark,

    That is really cool. But can we go ahead one step and grant 40 additional points to each weblog that makes it to the Top 25 and 40 more to each that makes it to the Top 10?

    This would be especially applicable to those blogs which present the content in such a way as to attract a lot of readers. The utility of the content of a blog might in some cases be more than the novelty of the content.

    Regards,
    Anand Mandalika.

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    1. Craig Cmehil
      Interesting thought about the additional points based on ranking, but is ranking alone enough? I mean for example if Shai writes a weblog chances are it’s going to hit the Top 25 and stay there, just like if Thomas Jung or Brian McKellar writes one. This is simply because they are well known and high profile type people.

      If someone new starts writing and puts one up in the same 30 days as one of those guys they might find themselves hard pressed to make it to the Top 25 even though they may have terrific content and a fantastic style of writing.

      I think rewarding good work is a great idea but perhaps not based on rankings?

      Just my thoughts,
      Craig

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      1. Prakash Singh
        I agree with Craig. A weblog that is in top 25 doesn’t always mean it is of exceptional quality. I think feedback might be better indicator.
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      2. Hi Craig / Prakash,

        Personally, I think an SDNer’s popularity alone doesn’t ( at least it shouldn’t ) determine the ranking for his/her weblog. For example, if there’s a Weblog on say, “HTMLB Extensions for BSP”, it would only be read by those folks who are actually interested in what is being said there. An SDNer who is interested in “SAP Exchange Infrastructure” might not exactly find such a weblog to be relevant.

        Also, I don’t think it would be as difficult as it seems for a new weblogger to find his blog among the top 25 if it has got the goods. Further, anyone who comes across a good weblog is likely to remember it and mention it in the forums as an answer to a question.

        Anyways, rewarding the weblogs that make it top 25 was just an idea. It is merely another suggestion to automate the pointing system. Some people may not feel comfortable asking for more points for their weblogs than were already granted.

        And finally, I did like Prakash’s idea of the users rating a weblog (each user can do it only once). And if there are a lot of users who have found a weblog to be useful, then based on some parameter, the points can be increased. This may also push the weblog into the top 25.

        Regards,
        Anand Mandalika.

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        1. Craig Cmehil
          These are good thoughts, but if you watch the trend of weblogs, you’ll see (whether it’s the right way or not) but there are certain individuals whose weblogs are not only read faster and more often than others it’s regardless of content.

          The rating system is basically the only good way to try to give additional points but it’s a large effort for what gain? Would it surive without being abused? Would anonymous users be able to rate a weblog? Competition is good and healthy but too many ways can lead to abuse and dishonesty.

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  4. Igor Barbaric
    Hello!
    I am one of those who has sent a “where are my points” email. But I was just curious what’s going on! Simple “Wait 2-3 weeks (or months) till Mark returns” would completely satisfy me. I don’t mind waiting as long as I know that someone will eventually evaluate my work. And I strongly believe that this should be done by a person, not a machine. So I wasn’t unpatient, not to mention that I wasn’t demanding points. I believe there were more missunderstood emails like mine.

    I believe that NO AUTOMATIC POINTS AT ALL should be granted. Here’s why, and I believe that I’m not inventing the wheel:
    It might occur to someone: “I’ll post 200 blah-blah weblogs and become No 1 blogger here.”. OK – this is exaggerated, but it’s highly probable that race for points might result in inflation of bad weblogs.
    In fact, it seems that it has already started. I’ve seen recently a critical comment saying that a weblog was unneccessarily split into 3 parts. I’m not saying that the particular (series of) weblog(s) is bad – I can’t judge because I’m not interested in the topic. However, this might indicate what kind of damage can be done by auto-pointing.
    And there’s more. For example, I wanted to post a weblog just saying “Thanks for voting for me” since I was elected for presenting at TechEd. Clearly, this shouldn’t be awarded, but now I can’t do it without grabbing 40 points which I don’t deserve. So what can I do now? What about blogs like this?
    So Mark, please re-consider your idea of granting points automatically.
    I am also inviting others to discuss on this matter.
    Igor

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    1. Craig Cmehil
      This is actually a topic of late in many aspects, we’ve started a thread in SDN Suggestion regarding original content in weblogs.

      You make some good points that should be considered!

      – Craig

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  5. John Carlson
    Hi Mark;

       I see here, and on some of the blogs, that there is some question as to whether all blogs deserve “instant gratification,” or if they meet the unspoken standard for information sharing as a weblog.

    As a suggestion, do you think it would be beneficial to add another area for the less involved topics?  The idea of a “Tips/Tricks” area struck me this morning after I read this blog.  Those could be for quick hits, maybe no instant gratification, but still a forum for someone to put out a good idea to the larger audience without having to be as verbose.  That might make it easier to enforce a higher blog standard without preventing someone from sharing useful information.

    Cheers,

    John

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